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To fix, or not to fix. That is the question.

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twpogue

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Post Tue May 04, 2010 7:21 pm

To fix, or not to fix. That is the question.

Hi, folks! New noob on the block.
I have an old M400 (serial no 269), and a C4000.
The amp's protection circuitry cuts out immediately.
The preamp has one channel out and dirty pots, but the little holo amp still works.
Now it is either a pile of worthless crap, or a treasure waiting to be reclaimed.
Not sure if there is a question here, or if I just want someone to convince me it's worth fixing, that there are parts, etc.
I liked the sound with my Kef C95s and M&K Goliath sub. a LOT. Very rich, thick sound with lots of buttery goodness. The holograph effect made me giggle out loud. It was my first "good" setup. Maybe not the highest end, but sweet sound for the money.
Any recent experiences, opinions, etc. appreciated.
- Theron Pogue
Dorrington,CA
It can't be too loud, it's not clipping!
Carver: 1980 M-400 and C-4000 in need of $TLC :(
Other crap: Kef C95 speakers, M&K Goliath Subwoofer, Rotel RC-972 preamp, Adcom 5500 amp/boat anchor
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engtaz

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Post Wed May 05, 2010 4:06 am

Re: To fix, or not to fix. That is the question.

Welcome
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Post Wed May 05, 2010 4:22 am

Re: To fix, or not to fix. That is the question.

WELCOME, Theron! Sounds Creole....?

There are a few highly knowledgeable folks here with specific knowledge of the C4000. I'll let them advise you on that. It is an older, slightly noisier preamp than many of the newer models, but has it's own special magic. Two members have one-off, highly modified models that are supposed to really be nice. Basspig, jvandyke, BillD; what you say?
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Post Wed May 05, 2010 8:42 am

Re: To fix, or not to fix. That is the question.

Welcome to the forum. IMO you should get that amp fixed!
Some cool Carver stuff!
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BillD

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Post Wed May 05, 2010 12:11 pm

Re: To fix, or not to fix. That is the question.

C-4000 is probably just dirty and needs cleaning and, while you're in there, re-capping. The M-400 with that kind of serial number was built in 1980 — that's 30 years ago! It needs recapping badly.
It should sound like it isn't there!
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twpogue

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Post Fri May 07, 2010 6:53 am

Re: To fix, or not to fix. That is the question.

The caps have been replaced once before (in the '90s) due to a hum. No hum since, but it's been awhile. It couldn't hurt and wouldn't add much to the repair cost to freshen them up. It had a couple of transistors replaced then as well. I hope the preamp just needs cleaning. That worked before. I bought the system used from a close friend who took good care of it, so I was well acquainted with it and it's history of service at the old Century Stereo in San Jose, CA. Century is gone now, and I have moved, so I need to find a good shop.
I always liked the sound. Not perfect, nor would it please everyone, but it worked pretty well with my abused old eardrums.
I think I will indeed have them fixed. Now there's just that old money thing...
Thanks a lot for the input!
- Theron
It can't be too loud, it's not clipping!
Carver: 1980 M-400 and C-4000 in need of $TLC :(
Other crap: Kef C95 speakers, M&K Goliath Subwoofer, Rotel RC-972 preamp, Adcom 5500 amp/boat anchor
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kingman

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Post Fri May 07, 2010 5:14 pm

Re: To fix, or not to fix. That is the question.

I like all the Carver gear. FIX EM!!!! P.S. WELCOME!!!! =D> =D> =D>
In reality, it only matters what it sounds like to YOU!!!
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Post Sat May 08, 2010 2:09 am

Re: To fix, or not to fix. That is the question.

WELCOME and there is only one option and that is to FIX...
BillD, You will be forever with us! RIP until we meet again on the other side...

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