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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:47 am

Looking For The Electrician (or Someone Like Him...)

Holy transistors Batman! I just stumbled on this forum dedicated to Bob Carver and his wonderful audio equipment. I had no idea such a thing existed. I've been a big fan of Carver products since the days of the Phase Linear 4000. (Oops, make that Phase Linear 400, the amp not the pre-amp...) Wish I still had mine but I traded it for a Gibson Les Paul in the late 80's. lol

I have enjoyed listening to (and playing) music since I was in my early teens. In those days my brothers and I had a cheap, nameless, all-in-one system that included a turntable, AM-FM radio and an 8-track tape player. Over the years my passion for music has continued unabated while my audio system has grown commensurate with my disposable income. My musical tastes run the gamut from blues and classical to jazz and classic rock. Media formats include reel-to-reel, cassettes, LP's and CD's.

I pretty much stopped buying audio gear (hardware and software) in the mid 90's after I got married and my 1st son was born. Last year that same son graduated from Rockband (the X-Box game) to real drums. I bought him a used set of Tama's and he was happy as a clam. Unfortunately he lives with his mother (we are separated) who tired quickly of his new passion. So I set him up in my basement man-cave which is 18' x 24' and virtually soundproof. He plugs his I-Pod Touch (MP3 player) into the Aux 2 input on my Onkyo pre-amp, cranks up the volume and plays along with the music. After months of almost daily practice he'd gotten pretty good at it and began inviting some of his musician friends over to jam. One day, just for yucks, I dug out my GK-55 and Marshall amp and sat in with them. (My hair may be gray but I can still rock!) Now we've come full circle and I've got the bug again too...

For those who are interested my audio system components are listed below. (Purchase dates are in parentheses.) As you can see I have 4 Carver amps. Each amp is bridged in mono and drives one speaker/sub-woofer. Probably a bit of overkill but the Legacy's love to be pushed hard and frankly I still like to feel the music the way I did when I played in a power rock trio in the late 70's and 80's.

Hope I didn't bore you too much.

Ciao for now!
Last edited by zumbini on Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:14 am, edited 2 times in total.
Carver Gear: BillD-modified C-2 and C-11 (both w/balanced outs), CT-Seven, DTL-50, DTL-200MK2
M-200t, M-500, M-500t (x2), M-1.0t, M-1.5t (x2), MXR-130, PM-1200 (x3), PT2400, SD/A 490t, TX-2, TX-8r, TX-11b
Other: Behringer CX3400/DCX2496/FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R, Teac C-3RX and X-10R, Technics SL1200 and S-D303
Speakers: Design Acoustics DA-30 (2 sets w/extra DA-10s), Klipsch KG2.5, Legacy Super Satellites, Legacy Subs

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:58 am

Re: Looking For The Electrician (or Someone Like Him...)

WELCOME~ =D>

FYI, the M1.5t is NOT a bridgeable amplifier... :-s

Also, you might consider some sort of bi-amping as an alternative, as bridging GENERALLY lowers sound quality~ 8)
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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:54 am

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TNRabbit wrote:FYI, the M1.5t is NOT a bridgeable amplifier... :-s

Perhaps bridging is the wrong term. I have both M-1.5t's wired for mono according to the diagram silk-screened on the rear panel.

TNRabbit wrote:Also, you might consider some sort of bi-amping as an alternative, as bridging GENERALLY lowers sound quality~ 8)

I played around with several power configurations after I purchased my Legacy's. I also had a home visit and tweak session with Bill Dudleston, Legacy's founder and Chief Engineer. The current configuration delivered the best sound quality so I've stuck with it ever since. Why mess with perfection?
Carver Gear: BillD-modified C-2 and C-11 (both w/balanced outs), CT-Seven, DTL-50, DTL-200MK2
M-200t, M-500, M-500t (x2), M-1.0t, M-1.5t (x2), MXR-130, PM-1200 (x3), PT2400, SD/A 490t, TX-2, TX-8r, TX-11b
Other: Behringer CX3400/DCX2496/FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R, Teac C-3RX and X-10R, Technics SL1200 and S-D303
Speakers: Design Acoustics DA-30 (2 sets w/extra DA-10s), Klipsch KG2.5, Legacy Super Satellites, Legacy Subs

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:15 am

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Welcome!!!
I played in a power rock trio in the late 70's and 80's
What was the band name???
In reality, it only matters what it sounds like to YOU!!!
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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:33 am

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Welcome
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Carver M4.0T in front channels to Caver AL VI's in SACD & 2 Channel setup
C 16, PT 2400, Slim Device, Carver TX-8, 490T and Rega TT w Grado Gold cart in the 2 channel setup
Bogen SRB20 is computer amp
Carver PM-350 donated for youth church use
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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:11 am

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kingman wrote:What was the band name???

We called ourselves Dubious Noise. (Probably an appropriate moniker!)
We played mainly the Holiday Inn circuit (Wisconsin/Illinois/Indiana) from 1976 through 1981.
Carver Gear: BillD-modified C-2 and C-11 (both w/balanced outs), CT-Seven, DTL-50, DTL-200MK2
M-200t, M-500, M-500t (x2), M-1.0t, M-1.5t (x2), MXR-130, PM-1200 (x3), PT2400, SD/A 490t, TX-2, TX-8r, TX-11b
Other: Behringer CX3400/DCX2496/FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R, Teac C-3RX and X-10R, Technics SL1200 and S-D303
Speakers: Design Acoustics DA-30 (2 sets w/extra DA-10s), Klipsch KG2.5, Legacy Super Satellites, Legacy Subs

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:13 am

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zumbini wrote:
TNRabbit wrote:FYI, the M1.5t is NOT a bridgeable amplifier... :-s

Perhaps bridging is the wrong term. I have both M-1.5t's wired for mono according to the diagram silk-screened on the rear panel.

TNRabbit wrote:Also, you might consider some sort of bi-amping as an alternative, as bridging GENERALLY lowers sound quality~ 8)

I played around with several power configurations after I purchased my Legacy's. I also had a home visit and tweak session with Bill Dudleston, Legacy's founder and Chief Engineer. The current configuration delivered the best sound quality so I've stuck with it ever since. Why mess with perfection?


I still don't think that's possible with the M1.5t. Are you saying you are driving one speaker with both channels?

Lemme check....
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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:33 am

Re: Looking For The Electrician (or Someone Like Him...)

TNRabbit wrote:
zumbini wrote:
TNRabbit wrote:FYI, the M1.5t is NOT a bridgeable amplifier... :-s

Perhaps bridging is the wrong term. I have both M-1.5t's wired for mono according to the diagram silk-screened on the rear panel.

TNRabbit wrote:Also, you might consider some sort of bi-amping as an alternative, as bridging GENERALLY lowers sound quality~ 8)

I played around with several power configurations after I purchased my Legacy's. I also had a home visit and tweak session with Bill Dudleston, Legacy's founder and Chief Engineer. The current configuration delivered the best sound quality so I've stuck with it ever since. Why mess with perfection?


I still don't think that's possible with the M1.5t. Are you saying you are driving one speaker with both channels?

Correcto mundo. I feed the left and right inputs on each M1.5t with one channel of the bass output of the Richter Scale via Y-connectors. One M1.5t gets the left channel and the other gets the right channel. The speaker wires are connected across the 2 sets of outputs. I believe the positive speaker wire connects to the left channel positive terminal and the negative speaker wire to the right channel negative terminal.
Carver Gear: BillD-modified C-2 and C-11 (both w/balanced outs), CT-Seven, DTL-50, DTL-200MK2
M-200t, M-500, M-500t (x2), M-1.0t, M-1.5t (x2), MXR-130, PM-1200 (x3), PT2400, SD/A 490t, TX-2, TX-8r, TX-11b
Other: Behringer CX3400/DCX2496/FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R, Teac C-3RX and X-10R, Technics SL1200 and S-D303
Speakers: Design Acoustics DA-30 (2 sets w/extra DA-10s), Klipsch KG2.5, Legacy Super Satellites, Legacy Subs

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:13 pm

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sounds like good times! we had jam sessions in the basement too. my bro tears it up on six strings, his friend on bass and i drummed. we had quite a rotation of people playing usually at keggers in the cave. nasty nasty came by a few times to rock with us too.
Carver C-15v preamp, AV 505 amp, and c 9, MartinLogan Preface, Klipsch Kg 1.5
Velodyne sub, DBX 200, 1bx and 3bxII, SNR 1 and 120x Teac T-r 670 tuner, Sentrek shq4220b eq, Sonys 300 dvd and 50 cd changers 1 each, Magnavox ZV427MG9 dvd recorder. Not ALL Carver but a fully functional system.
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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:33 pm

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Welcome from a fellow drummer:

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TNRabbit
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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:54 pm

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Welcome zumbini! and no, you did not bore me at all > really enjoyed your story. I love stories that come back around full circle > Awesome!
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Post Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:58 pm

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That's a pretty fancy little junior drum set TNRabbit. A lot nicer than the Pacific's my son learned on..
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In case anyone is interested, here's a shot of some of MY favorite toys - a 1979 Gibson GK-55 with most of my Carver gear in the background.
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Carver Gear: BillD-modified C-2 and C-11 (both w/balanced outs), CT-Seven, DTL-50, DTL-200MK2
M-200t, M-500, M-500t (x2), M-1.0t, M-1.5t (x2), MXR-130, PM-1200 (x3), PT2400, SD/A 490t, TX-2, TX-8r, TX-11b
Other: Behringer CX3400/DCX2496/FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R, Teac C-3RX and X-10R, Technics SL1200 and S-D303
Speakers: Design Acoustics DA-30 (2 sets w/extra DA-10s), Klipsch KG2.5, Legacy Super Satellites, Legacy Subs

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
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Post Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:57 pm

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Nice Gibson!!!
I play and love my Gibsons
Thats why my wife deals with my OCCD - to keep me from playing the damn guitar :-& I think I am real good though :^o
BillD, You will be forever with us! RIP until we meet again on the other side...
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Post Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:31 am

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TNRabbit wrote:I still don't think that's possible with the M1.5t....Lemme check....

So what's the verdict TNRabbit?
Carver Gear: BillD-modified C-2 and C-11 (both w/balanced outs), CT-Seven, DTL-50, DTL-200MK2
M-200t, M-500, M-500t (x2), M-1.0t, M-1.5t (x2), MXR-130, PM-1200 (x3), PT2400, SD/A 490t, TX-2, TX-8r, TX-11b
Other: Behringer CX3400/DCX2496/FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R, Teac C-3RX and X-10R, Technics SL1200 and S-D303
Speakers: Design Acoustics DA-30 (2 sets w/extra DA-10s), Klipsch KG2.5, Legacy Super Satellites, Legacy Subs

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
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Post Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:17 am

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zumbini wrote:
TNRabbit wrote:I still don't think that's possible with the M1.5t....Lemme check....

So what's the verdict TNRabbit?


Sorry; been in Vegas since last Friday.

Could NOT find anything one way or the other.
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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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