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gunner64

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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:28 pm

C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

Hi All,
Here I have a C-19 tube preamp that I'd like to offer up here before I try other methods of selling it(yes ebay).I haven't listed it yet,and won't untill I'm sure no one on this forum would like to have it.
I bought this about 3 months ago from a woman in California who's husband worked at Rita's vintage audio,and I bought it as "Fully restored by Rita's Vintage Audio".She was selling a bunch of Carver/Sunfire stuff at the time,in fact she shipped this pre to me in a sunfire box,which is the box I'll ship it in also.It works Fantasic(everything),and is very clean inside and out.The only thing keeping it from a Near mint description is a very light scratch on the upper left face by the rack handle that is very hard to see in a system.It appears to have the original yugo Ei 6DJ8's in it.I'll send a quad of 60's vintage Amperex Holland 6DJ8's with it also.I also have the original Manual(no copy)This is a super nice ( hard to find for sale) preamp,Serviced,With extra vintage tubes.I'd like to get $1000.00 for it.(paypal)I'll ship it at no additional charge to anywhere in the lower 48 U.S. states. I've seen units with faded purple faces that were not serviced go for over 800 so I don't think I'm out of line + Due to the rarity.(and pain of selling it-it's worth that to me)I'm not a crook or a scammer,I buy and sell on ebay and have 100% positive feedback.I just have too much audio stuff(don't we all)and some things I rarely use.If anyone is interested please P.M. me And I'll Give you my # and you can talk to me personally about it.Also if you want some pics sent to your email as I haven't mastered the art of posting normal sized pics here(they come out Gigantic!)I live in Dubuque,Iowa 186 mi west of Chicago,if anyone's in the area and would like to check it out.Again this isn't for sale anywhere other than here at the present time.i'll consider offers,but I won't give it away!
Thanks for listening,
Robert
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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:08 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

Pictures would help, but this isn't a Sunfire tube pre-amp. It's a solid state pre-amp with a tube output buffer. As a hybrid, it doesn't command the pricing you are asking.

Pre-Amp C-19

used (low) $330.00
used (high) $600.00
used (latest) $510.00
used (ave) $490.00
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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:24 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

With the extra tubes and serviced I would think a price of $750 might get some attention. Pics would be a BIG plus.
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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:40 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

I agree, the Holland Amperex's might command a higher price.
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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:23 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

Thanks for the input.It is a nice preamp and if I remember I think I have about 120 bucks in the amperex 6DJ8's,which are considerd by many to be the best 6DJ8 tube to have.I'll try to post some pics,but like I said they may come out huge as I haven't had much luck making them smaller when posting on this forum,Yes I'm kinda Computer illiterate,and I apologize for that.While it may not be a pure tube preamp,I believe the value isn't in what design it is or isn't,but in the fact that they do sound good,and not too many people resell them once they get them,making them relatively rare on the resale market.Couple that with the fact that That one may never come my way again. I hate to part with it but it's just sitting with the rest of my Carver stuff,not being used .I'm using a ct17 at the present as it sounds pretty good itself,and it's remote controlled,and yes I'm lazy!
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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:46 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

I've listened to a pair of Amperex 6DJ8/ECC88s (the A-frames from Holland) in a tube buffer, and they are indeed nice. I preferred them to a pair of Telefunken ECC88s. used in the same buffer.
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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:45 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

Well here's some pics,I hope they don't come out gigantic.
That has been my experience with the Holland made tubes also Bill.They seem to shine a bit brighter than the other brands I've tried,second in my book would be RCA clear top 6cg7's,but in the c19 they are too tall to get the top panel on.sound good though.All the vintage tubes in my opinion sound much better than say new production sovtek 6922's.One thing about the c19 that I've noticed is that changing tubes change the total sound of the pre more than any other tube pre I have.Anyway here's the pics,I hope they are viewable.
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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:08 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

I hope they don't come out gigantic.


me too...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I think they need to be bigger.... \:D/ \:D/ \:D/
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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:08 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

DAMN THOSE ARE HUGE PICS!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:31 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

Yea,They are humonkerous,thats for sure,Thank you for stating the painfully obvious.Sorry for the inconvenience.My computer skills suck,like I mentioned.All I did was take the pics from my camera and attached them to my post.I can't for the life of me figure out how to post normal pics so any advice as to how to accomplish this would be nice!
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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:52 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

I think that everyone should be reminded once again that the pixels are rendered one-for-one here so, if you want people to see your picture on one screen, take into account that most modern screens are typically 1280x1024 pixels or 1800x1080 if they are true HD. Anyway, try to limit you pix to 1000 pixels wide if you don't want people to have to use the scroll bar at the bottom of the screen. I'm running a 1360x768 widescreen monitor right now
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Post Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:57 pm

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I can not make out the pictures on my Laptop!

I would goto imageshack.com and re-size them to 800x600 and copy the direct link and paste them here!
BillD, You will be forever with us! RIP until we meet again on the other side...
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Post Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:12 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

I'll work on resizing them.Holy cow what a trainwreck!
As far as price goes I will take offers.I do see the bluebook values and from what I've seen for sale recently they seem to be off the mark abit,and in need of updating.I see that one changed hands on the forum recently,and I'd bet it sold for more than the $600 highest price listed,I could be wrong but I'd bet it sold for more.And I've never seen one sell for $330.At $510 or $490 I'd buy all I could find at that price(which wouldn't be many,if any)You guys all know what they go for,how often they come up for sale,how they sound,ect.,and know that $500 isn't going to buy it.I'll agree $1000 is at the top of the scale but the high bluebook $600 for A serviced C-19 even without the extra tubes seems a bit low to me and I'd just as soon keep it as opposed to sell for that.The supposedly rare 490t/390t tube buffered CD players sell for that much and there is always one or two of those for sale on ebay,where the C-19 is rarely seen.
Just because I'd like to see $1000 out of it doesn't mean I'll get it,but I won't give it away either.I'd also be open to trades.Other Carver gear,Tube amps.I'm also looking for a '82 to '87 vintage 50 watt JCM800 Marshall head,which is what I intend to purchase if I sell the preamp.
Thanks for listening,Robert
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Post Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:58 pm

Re: C-19 vacuum tube reference preamplifier

that massive Pioneer R2R deck on top of it is not helping the value of the C-19 IMHO...
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Post Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:48 pm

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take another look,its not on top of it,the preamp was placed in front of the RtR to take the pics.I may not know how to resize my pics but I tend to shy away from stacking things on top of tube equipment,or any for that matter.Or was that just a dig against the Pioneer RtR?in any event Thats a RT1050 2 track deck.(I've got classical 2 track tapes from the late 50's who's sound rivals alot of cd's).Not some generic 4 track junker which most are.most people who criticize RtR tape don't know the difference,or have never heard a good machine play a good tape.Anyway It is not on top of the preamp and wouldn't look so massive if my dumb ass would have posted the pics proper.
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