Custom amp created by Bob Carver (AND I SHIT ON IT)

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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by gdb » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:33 pm

If I read correctly somewhere, Bob has in the past, paid astronomical amounts for those paint jobs on his amps. I can't remember what the figures were but, they seemed awfully steep,probably too steep for the budget on this "conglomeration". :-"

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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by jjptkd » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:11 pm

Let's do the math on Carver tube amps:

305 watt Black Beauties: $13,000 = $43 per watt

180 watt Cherry Amps $7,500 = $42 per watt

100 watt personalized, custom install / configuration $3,165 (shipped) = $31.65 per watt

At the base rate of $42 a watt, you would of paid $4200 for a "generic" production line, 100 watt tube amp... I'm sure the "Bob Father" put A LOT of extra time and loving care making yours work inside a foreign chassis, probably way more then a typical amp build, not to mention lugging around a heavy ass chassis like that with a bad back, no wonder he's pissed off!! ](*,) ](*,)
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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by d0n » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:56 pm

Although it is hideous and looks like helen keller herself painted it with a dirty old mop, it does sound angelic. *5*

All you caver-ites are making excuses for Bobs (or whoever actually built this amp) lack of quality control... How about putting your money where your mouth is?

I'll sell you this angelic sounding (but horrible looking) carver (or lab assistant?) creation for the mere cost of $40 a watt.

That's a great deal right? Stop spouting off about how lucky I am and get out your wallets. \:D/

It would be better if your name is Don. Than you don't have to get the transformer covers resigned after you un-helen-keller (un-bob-carver) them.

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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by Don » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:10 pm

d0n wrote: It would be better if your name is Don. Than you don't have to get the transformer covers resigned after you un-helen-keller (un-bob-carver) them.




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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by d0n » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:12 pm

Don! Wanna buy an amp?! This is your lucky day! LOL! =P~

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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by Don » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:19 pm

Nah, Paint job on the inside turns me off! :lol: :lol: Sorry, I couldn't resist. #-o
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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by jjptkd » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:08 pm

As much as I'd love to have a 100x2 Bob Carver tube amp (perfect for my Klipsch Chorus II's,) you opted to have it stuffed inside a horrific looking and I'm guessing nearly 100lb chassis. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Besides, the amp is now "used" and no longer worth full retail price. [-X #-o [-X Would you consider $1200 shipped to Snohomish WA? :-k :-k
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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by gdb » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:13 pm

jjptkd wrote:As much as I'd love to have a 100x2 Bob Carver tube amp (perfect for my Klipsch Chorus II's,) you opted to have it stuffed inside a horrific looking and I'm guessing nearly 100lb chassis. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Besides, the amp is now "used" and no longer worth full retail price. [-X #-o [-X Would you consider $1200 shipped to Snohomish WA? :-k :-k

^^That is certainly gonna' leave a mark !^^ :shock: But, pretty much my sentiments too. It's a fugly abomination and if it were mine, I'd liberate the amp inside, then I'd either give the carcass to another owner of that brand/model of amp for parts, or.....utilize it as a kitty casket ! It already has a funereal aura about it . ( I've got both Binks and DeVillbiss, too !) :lol:

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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by F1nut » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:31 pm

I paid Bob $2795 + the $370 in shipping from Wa. to NY. It is the largest investment I have ever made in the effort to enjoy my audio hobby.
That's actually a very good price for a 100wpc tube amp. That said, there's NO excuse for that paint job and you every right to be pissed, I would be. Just spraying them with a $5.00 can of Krylon would look a helluva lot better than that crap.
you opted to have it stuffed inside a horrific looking and I'm guessing nearly 100lb chassis.
Funny, I think the class A SS amp chassis says, Bad Ass Mofo!!!
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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by angelod307 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:02 pm

ok, all have spoken. and it really was a bargian and favor that bob did. he does try to save a buck when he can, and passed on a paint job that he figured no one would look at. that said, take those transformer covers off and sand them with some 300 grit or so, the prime and repaint with rattle can or get a pro. total cost is gonna be what another hundred or two if a pro does it and a 20 dollar bill with your time. either way, one of a kind amplifier, that was blessed by the bob father himself. as i said on the other forum, you now have another experience to add to the way you conduct yourself in a business deal. i don't leave any stones unturned myself if possible. jj said it right though in that he did a lot of custom work for very little compared to a normal run amp. your issue with bob is understandable, yet your solution for a paint job will not be with him i say. very cool amp by the way.
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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by Magnaryder » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:34 pm

Did you ask Bob to build you an amplifier or paint it? 'Cause he is one of the GREAT amp builders of the last century but he ain't Chip Foose:-)

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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by cring08 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:45 pm

angelod307 wrote:ok, all have spoken. and it really was a bargian and favor that bob did. he does try to save a buck when he can, and passed on a paint job that he figured no one would look at. that said, take those transformer covers off and sand them with some 300 grit or so, the prime and repaint with rattle can or get a pro. total cost is gonna be what another hundred or two if a pro does it and a 20 dollar bill with your time. either way, one of a kind amplifier, that was blessed by the bob father himself. as i said on the other forum, you now have another experience to add to the way you conduct yourself in a business deal. i don't leave any stones unturned myself if possible. jj said it right though in that he did a lot of custom work for very little compared to a normal run amp. your issue with bob is understandable, yet your solution for a paint job will not be with him i say. very cool amp by the way.
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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by Chauss » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:25 pm

cring08 wrote:
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Hell, mail the covers to Cincinnati, and I will have our paint shop do it, or one of my steel vendors powdercoat it for free.

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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by d0n » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:54 pm

Thanks for all your offers to help. I know with enough effort I can probably remove the amp from the genesis chassis and then remove transformer covers. I know I could paint them myself for the cost of a can of spray paint.

What most of you guys fail to understand is that I didn't think I'd have to do any of that when I contracted with Bob to build this amp.

In my wildest nightmares I never would have expected Bob Carver to spend over a year building me a $2800 amp and then have it arrive looking like this. I didn't think I had to say... "Hey Bob, please make sure you paint the transformer covers so they don't look like sh*t. I'm going to probably show this amp to people in the future and I don't want them to wonder WTF I'm so proud of".

The builder also wired the inputs on the carver amp to the output RCA jacks on the back of the Genesis chassis. It would have been so simple to solder the input wires to the carver to the input jacks on the genesis. But no, the builder just randomly picked a pair of RCA jacks on the genesis back panel and started soldering. Another "WTF were they thinking" moment. I know it doesn't REALLY matter if the RCA jacks are marked input or output... but that carelessness along with the crazy transformer finishes... just shows the builder wasn't putting much effort or care into the build.
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Re: Custom amp created by Bob Carver

Post by gdb » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:09 am

You just don't seem to grasp that you're unlikely to gain much traction in badmouthing Bob Carver on the websites that are devoted to the very person you seek to vilify. :rolleyes:

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