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Post Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:00 am

Re: 490t tube change time??

White label, PQ, USA, got it. Ive been getting all my tubes from ebay but have not seen the white label pq yet. Just found the thread where F1 gives a list of tube buying companys, gonna go there next.

The orange globes really sounded good, they had a really smooth laid back sound. It seemed like the lead singer was standing back from the mic a little more than normal and when he would hit an "S" there was no high pitch hiss. If that makes sense.
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Post Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:10 am

Re: 490t tube change time??

It seems to me that certain tubes would work better with certain types of music or even take it farther and say with certain songs. Is that crazy talk or am I becoming a tube freak? :lol: :lol:
TFM-75 serial #0001
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Baby Black serial #0001
A Lightstar or two
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Dual CS5000 Turn Table
DQ-20's
Douglas Cables
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Post Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:21 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

Yes I have encountered that certain tubes for certain music thing. The phono stage in my Sunfire preamp uses 12AX7/5751 tubes and I have found that in my preamp Telefunken 12AX7's are the king when it comes to classical. Now with jazz black plate triple mica GE 5751's do a better job and is a better around tube for my taste. Face it you are a lost cause :lol:
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Post Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:02 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

Snoop65 wrote: Face it you are a lost cause :lol:

Believe me......HE KNOWS- he is a "tube-a-holic" as well! :lol:
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Post Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:23 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

Chauss wrote:
Snoop65 wrote: Face it you are a lost cause :lol:

Believe me......HE KNOWS- he is a "tube-a-holic" as well! :lol:


Look who's talking Mr. VTL! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:22 pm

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I got the tube fever and the only cure is more GOLD PINS! :lol: :lol:

What do you guys know about Siemens E88CC 6922 vacuum tubes.
TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black serial #0001
A Lightstar or two
Cherry/260's
Carver 490t
Sunfire Tube preamp
ProJect TT Tube preamp
DENON DP-62L TurnTable
Dual CS5000 Turn Table
DQ-20's
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
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Post Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:53 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

MRHP wrote:I got the tube fever and the only cure is more GOLD PINS! :lol: :lol:

What do you guys know about Siemens E88CC 6922 vacuum tubes.


Siemens makes great tubes. The Cca's are the ones to have. Very expensive and becareful of fakes. I bought a pair off of this guy on Ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Real-CCa-Siemen ... 19cc58bf34

The Siemens have a different sonic character from the Amperex tubes. From my listening they are not as warm, they have more detail and air, and maybe a slightly larger soundstage. I could easily live with the Siemens tube but I prefer Amperex PQ's.
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Post Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:55 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

With all this tube rolling you need a nive tube preamp in your life. Welcome to the Darkside! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:06 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

Here's a site you can use as kind of a tube spotters guide to help you avoid fakes. Keep in mind though there may be a few varients that are not pictured. Most of the heavy hitters are pictured though.

http://www.tubemongerlib.com/gallery2/main.php
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Post Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:02 pm

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Snoop65 wrote:With all this tube rolling you need a nive tube preamp in your life. Welcome to the Darkside! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I was about a month late on tinpan's Sunfire vacuum pre with phono output :( and the price was right at $1650. I just had not fell off the wagon into the dark side yet :lol: :lol:
TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black serial #0001
A Lightstar or two
Cherry/260's
Carver 490t
Sunfire Tube preamp
ProJect TT Tube preamp
DENON DP-62L TurnTable
Dual CS5000 Turn Table
DQ-20's
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
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Post Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:05 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

Here are the ones I am looking at but they almost look too new. Snoop can you tell if they are fake...http://www.ebay.com/itm/110838121887?ss ... 1423.l2649
TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black serial #0001
A Lightstar or two
Cherry/260's
Carver 490t
Sunfire Tube preamp
ProJect TT Tube preamp
DENON DP-62L TurnTable
Dual CS5000 Turn Table
DQ-20's
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
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Post Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:01 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

MRHP wrote:Here are the ones I am looking at but they almost look too new. Snoop can you tell if they are fake...http://www.ebay.com/itm/110838121887?ss ... 1423.l2649


They look real but what concerns me is that he doesn't mention any kind of testing. Those stickers look like test results but I'm not sureand if they are you need to know the range on the tester he is using.Try to look for people who are posting test results with their listings and pretty much just sells tubes or/and electronics. You don't want to spend over $100.00 and the tubes only last you four months. Also stay away from sellers in Japan or China. Another thing to think about is Siemens tubes are usually over $200.00 a tube NOS so watch out for prices that are too good to be true.
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Post Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:37 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

MRHP wrote:
Snoop65 wrote:With all this tube rolling you need a nive tube preamp in your life. Welcome to the Darkside! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I was about a month late on tinpan's Sunfire vacuum pre with phono output :( and the price was right at $1650. I just had not fell off the wagon into the dark side yet :lol: :lol:


Yes Tinpan had a nice one! Detachable power cord too. I have the fully loaded Sunfire preamp also. Awesome sound and a tube rollers dream! \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/
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Post Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:45 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

If I do get a tube preamp Ill almost have to setup another system because from what I understand it doesnt have a subwoofer output/xover like the TGPII. Right now Im liking the bass so much Im going to just get all the tube sound I can out of the 490t.

The biggest improvement Ive made to this system is the preamp and the tube changes. Pretty amazing what a couple of simple changes can do for the sound.
TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black serial #0001
A Lightstar or two
Cherry/260's
Carver 490t
Sunfire Tube preamp
ProJect TT Tube preamp
DENON DP-62L TurnTable
Dual CS5000 Turn Table
DQ-20's
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
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Post Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:59 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

MRHP wrote:If I do get a tube preamp Ill almost have to setup another system because from what I understand it doesnt have a subwoofer output/xover like the TGPII. Right now Im liking the bass so much Im going to just get all the tube sound I can out of the 490t.

The biggest improvement Ive made to this system is the preamp and the tube changes. Pretty amazing what a couple of simple changes can do for the sound.


The Sunfire has two sets of rca outputs one you can use for a sub. It also has XLR's. :D
CARVER LIGHTSTAR REFERENCE+SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE PREAMPLIFIER+JBL XPL200+MUSIC HALL MMF-9.1+GRADO REFERENCE MASTER 1+CARVER SD/A 390t=WOW!!!!!!
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