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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:15 am

Re: 490t tube change time??

Snoop65 wrote:
MRHP wrote:If I do get a tube preamp Ill almost have to setup another system because from what I understand it doesnt have a subwoofer output/xover like the TGPII. Right now Im liking the bass so much Im going to just get all the tube sound I can out of the 490t.

The biggest improvement Ive made to this system is the preamp and the tube changes. Pretty amazing what a couple of simple changes can do for the sound.


The Sunfire has two sets of rca outputs one you can use for a sub. It also has XLR's. :D


The vacuum tube Sunfire?? :shock: This will bad for my bank account if so! :-k
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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:24 am

Re: 490t tube change time??

The Sunfire tube pre doesn't have a sub out. He was talking about the TG units.
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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:41 am

Re: 490t tube change time??

TNRabbit wrote:The Sunfire tube pre doesn't have a sub out. He was talking about the TG units.


I think you miss understood me Rabbit I said the Sunfire has two rca outs and one could be used for a sub if the sub has a built in crossover. :D
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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:57 am

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Ah...well, you had mentioned the TGII then said it had 2 sub outputs so I thought that's what you were talking about.....
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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:15 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

TNRabbit wrote:Ah...well, you had mentioned the TGII then said it had 2 sub outputs so I thought that's what you were talking about.....


Sorry Rabbit I didn't make it clear on my post that I was talking about the Sunfire Classic tube pre. I know nothing about the TGII .
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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:46 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

Here's a near mint Sunfire Tubed Pre with remote for $1200 free shipping, no phono stage but price is right:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/sunfir ... e-shipping
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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:01 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

jjptkd wrote:Here's a near mint Sunfire Tubed Pre with remote for $1200 free shipping, no phono stage but price is right:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/sunfir ... e-shipping


Can a tube phono stage be installed? I think I read a thread about this somewhere.
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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:07 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

MRHP wrote:
jjptkd wrote:Here's a near mint Sunfire Tubed Pre with remote for $1200 free shipping, no phono stage but price is right:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/sunfir ... e-shipping


Can a tube phono stage be installed? I think I read a thread about this somewhere.


I don't think there would be a problem installing a phono board I think you would have a problem finding a phono board
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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:27 pm

FYI....

2 Carverfests ago, Bob had a prototype phono board that IIRC one of the two Tom's from Pittsburgh was the first to purchase. It had double the amount of tubes in it to lower the noise floor and was well received after observations from all that heard it. I haven't really heard anything since but it might be worth your time to follow up with either Bob or one of the two Tom's and find out. That might actually be easier than trying to find one on the used market. :wink:

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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:48 pm

Re: FYI....

treitz3 wrote:2 Carverfests ago, Bob had a prototype phono board that IIRC one of the two Tom's from Pittsburgh was the first to purchase. It had double the amount of tubes in it to lower the noise floor and was well received after observations from all that heard it. I haven't really heard anything since but it might be worth your time to follow up with either Bob or one of the two Tom's and find out. That might actually be easier than trying to find one on the used market. :wink:

With better sound to boot!


I wonder if that was similar to the mod done on Briant's phono board?
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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:17 pm

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Snoop65 wrote:
treitz3 wrote:2 Carverfests ago, Bob had a prototype phono board that IIRC one of the two Tom's from Pittsburgh was the first to purchase. It had double the amount of tubes in it to lower the noise floor and was well received after observations from all that heard it. I haven't really heard anything since but it might be worth your time to follow up with either Bob or one of the two Tom's and find out. That might actually be easier than trying to find one on the used market. :wink:

With better sound to boot!


I wonder if that was similar to the mod done on Briant's phono board?


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I think Tom (T3) is getting a little mixed up, the "prototype phono board" that Tom is talking about, is my phono board in my Sunfire Pre.
Tom is correct, it was modded with more tubes to bring the noise floor down, but it was the only one Bob had made a mod I had requested.
It was in cabin 2, Tom & Tom's cabin, but I was staying in that cabin as well, so I can easily see why Tom thought it was one of the 2 Tom's
that owned the modded phono board.

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Post Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:50 pm

Ah, thank you for clarifying this Brian. I do recall that it was his intentions to bring this into production, though. Of course, he was still with Sunfire at this point....so you may be the only owner of said phono pre in existence.
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Post Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:33 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

I wonder if the vacuum stage out of a 490t could be used. They turn up here and there for $200 or less when the drawer wont open or the remote is missing etc.
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Post Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:02 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

MRHP wrote:I wonder if the vacuum stage out of a 490t could be used. They turn up here and there for $200 or less when the drawer wont open or the remote is missing etc.


Are you asking can it be made into a tube phonostage?
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:46 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

Snoop65 wrote:
MRHP wrote:I wonder if the vacuum stage out of a 490t could be used. They turn up here and there for $200 or less when the drawer wont open or the remote is missing etc.


Are you asking can it be made into a tube phonostage?


Yes thats exactly what Im asking.
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