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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by Snoop65 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:59 pm

MRHP wrote:
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MRHP wrote:I wonder if the vacuum stage out of a 490t could be used. They turn up here and there for $200 or less when the drawer wont open or the remote is missing etc.
Are you asking can it be made into a tube phonostage?
Yes thats exactly what Im asking.
I would say no it wouldn't work.
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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by mbskeam » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:03 pm

at last CF when I had a rare moment alone with Bob, we got to talking about his tube pre, I asked him about his mod that he had done to Brians.
he said no problem.
but he did make a comment that there are a lot of stand alone units that will sound as good if not better, than his phono stage.
this was designed like 15yrs ago. Bob has only gotten smarter in that time
also the pre was a production item, so the was a bit of cost cutting I'm sure....

the phono stages by them self do come up for sale about once a year...

and no, the tube guts from a 490T will not work. whole diffrent animal
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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by Snoop65 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:37 pm

mbskeam wrote:at last CF when I had a rare moment alone with Bob, we got to talking about his tube pre, I asked him about his mod that he had done to Brians.
he said no problem.
but he did make a comment that there are a lot of stand alone units that will sound as good if not better, than his phono stage.
this was designed like 15yrs ago. Bob has only gotten smarter in that time
also the pre was a production item, so the was a bit of cost cutting I'm sure....

the phono stages by them self do come up for sale about once a year...

and no, the tube guts from a 490T will not work. whole diffrent animal
Did Bob explain how to do the phonostage mod?
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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by MRHP » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:41 pm

mbskeam wrote:at last CF when I had a rare moment alone with Bob, we got to talking about his tube pre, I asked him about his mod that he had done to Brians.
he said no problem.
but he did make a comment that there are a lot of stand alone units that will sound as good if not better, than his phono stage.
this was designed like 15yrs ago. Bob has only gotten smarter in that time
also the pre was a production item, so the was a bit of cost cutting I'm sure....

the phono stages by them self do come up for sale about once a year...

and no, the tube guts from a 490T will not work. whole diffrent animal
What do you mean by stand alone? Does it plug in between the preamp and tt. Give me an example if you dont mind.
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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by mbskeam » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:56 pm

here are some pics of Brians unit
the mod is on the MC part of the phono board.....

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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by mbskeam » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:05 pm

check out this site, it will give you an idea of the stuff out there....
lots and lots..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.audio-consulting.ch/?Product ... hono_Stage

http://www.phonostagepreamp.com/

http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Phono-Preamps
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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by Snoop65 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:08 pm

MRHP wrote:
mbskeam wrote:at last CF when I had a rare moment alone with Bob, we got to talking about his tube pre, I asked him about his mod that he had done to Brians.
he said no problem.
but he did make a comment that there are a lot of stand alone units that will sound as good if not better, than his phono stage.
this was designed like 15yrs ago. Bob has only gotten smarter in that time
also the pre was a production item, so the was a bit of cost cutting I'm sure....

the phono stages by them self do come up for sale about once a year...

and no, the tube guts from a 490T will not work. whole diffrent animal
What do you mean by stand alone? Does it plug in between the preamp and tt. Give me an example if you dont mind.
You got it right it fits between the preamp and turntable. Here is a link to needledoctor so you can see a few phono pre's
http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Phono-Preamps
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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by MRHP » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:15 pm

wow :shock:
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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by BrianT » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:36 pm

MRHP wrote:wow :shock:
I have the modded phono stage that Bob did, Mike thanks for posting the pictures.
I also have a second system set up, on that system I use a ProJect Tube BoX SE II phone preamp and it sound real nice.

http://www.needledoctor.com/Pro-Ject-Tu ... gory=35467

At the moment, its $749.00 usd at Needledoctor, but my local store has a like new demo for $349.00 cnd plus 13% tax
I think it's a real good buy. If you are interested in the demo unit let me know.

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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by MRHP » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:37 pm

Yes Im interested in the demo. I gotta tell ya I looked to see what state you were from with that 13% tax #-o :lol: :lol:

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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by Snoop65 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:52 pm

MRHP wrote:Yes Im interested in the demo. I gotta tell ya I looked to see what state you were from with that 13% tax #-o :lol: :lol:

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He's waaaaaaaaaaayyyy up north! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by mbskeam » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:16 pm

eehhh....take off hosser... :lol: :lol:
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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by BrianT » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:35 pm

Ed

Your brand new Project Tubed Phono Box SE II shipped today.
The preamp was not a demo, but a brand new unit, dealer overstock not bad for $349.00 cnd + 13% tax.

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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by MRHP » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:50 pm

Its Eric but whos counting :D

I will gladly pay the 13% for that kind of deal. \:D/

Thanks Brian, just PM your address to me so I can get you paid up. That was quite stand up of you to ship it before seeing any $$$ =D>
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Re: 490t tube change time??

Post by BrianT » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:23 pm

MRHP wrote:Its Eric but whos counting :D
Eric

OK I f**ked up again it's Eric not Ed, as for shipping before any $$$ has changed hands, I am a very trusting person.
In 14 years making deals on the net, I'v only been screwed 3 times., looks like I never learn. ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

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