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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:59 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

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Snoop65 wrote:
MRHP wrote:I wonder if the vacuum stage out of a 490t could be used. They turn up here and there for $200 or less when the drawer wont open or the remote is missing etc.


Are you asking can it be made into a tube phonostage?


Yes thats exactly what Im asking.


I would say no it wouldn't work.
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:03 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

at last CF when I had a rare moment alone with Bob, we got to talking about his tube pre, I asked him about his mod that he had done to Brians.
he said no problem.
but he did make a comment that there are a lot of stand alone units that will sound as good if not better, than his phono stage.
this was designed like 15yrs ago. Bob has only gotten smarter in that time
also the pre was a production item, so the was a bit of cost cutting I'm sure....

the phono stages by them self do come up for sale about once a year...

and no, the tube guts from a 490T will not work. whole diffrent animal
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#1 BLACK BEAUTY's made by the man, the myth, the legend Bob Carver
CARVER: TFM-75, TFM-45(3), SD/A-490T
SUNFIRE: Tube pre
2 sets of ALS'3, set of SILVERS, set of PLATS
AUDIOCONTROL: phase coupled activator
KENWOOD: BASIC M2a (2)

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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:37 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

mbskeam wrote:at last CF when I had a rare moment alone with Bob, we got to talking about his tube pre, I asked him about his mod that he had done to Brians.
he said no problem.
but he did make a comment that there are a lot of stand alone units that will sound as good if not better, than his phono stage.
this was designed like 15yrs ago. Bob has only gotten smarter in that time
also the pre was a production item, so the was a bit of cost cutting I'm sure....

the phono stages by them self do come up for sale about once a year...

and no, the tube guts from a 490T will not work. whole diffrent animal


Did Bob explain how to do the phonostage mod?
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:41 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

mbskeam wrote:at last CF when I had a rare moment alone with Bob, we got to talking about his tube pre, I asked him about his mod that he had done to Brians.
he said no problem.
but he did make a comment that there are a lot of stand alone units that will sound as good if not better, than his phono stage.
this was designed like 15yrs ago. Bob has only gotten smarter in that time
also the pre was a production item, so the was a bit of cost cutting I'm sure....

the phono stages by them self do come up for sale about once a year...

and no, the tube guts from a 490T will not work. whole diffrent animal


What do you mean by stand alone? Does it plug in between the preamp and tt. Give me an example if you dont mind.
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:56 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

here are some pics of Brians unit
the mod is on the MC part of the phono board.....

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#1 BLACK BEAUTY's made by the man, the myth, the legend Bob Carver
CARVER: TFM-75, TFM-45(3), SD/A-490T
SUNFIRE: Tube pre
2 sets of ALS'3, set of SILVERS, set of PLATS
AUDIOCONTROL: phase coupled activator
KENWOOD: BASIC M2a (2)

“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”
― Aristophanes

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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:05 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

Last edited by mbskeam on Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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#1 BLACK BEAUTY's made by the man, the myth, the legend Bob Carver
CARVER: TFM-75, TFM-45(3), SD/A-490T
SUNFIRE: Tube pre
2 sets of ALS'3, set of SILVERS, set of PLATS
AUDIOCONTROL: phase coupled activator
KENWOOD: BASIC M2a (2)

“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”
― Aristophanes

The only thing I'll feel......will be the RECOIL
Necronomicon Ex-Mortis....... Klaatu Barada Nikkto
"We should seek the greatest value of our action"
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:08 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

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mbskeam wrote:at last CF when I had a rare moment alone with Bob, we got to talking about his tube pre, I asked him about his mod that he had done to Brians.
he said no problem.
but he did make a comment that there are a lot of stand alone units that will sound as good if not better, than his phono stage.
this was designed like 15yrs ago. Bob has only gotten smarter in that time
also the pre was a production item, so the was a bit of cost cutting I'm sure....

the phono stages by them self do come up for sale about once a year...

and no, the tube guts from a 490T will not work. whole diffrent animal


What do you mean by stand alone? Does it plug in between the preamp and tt. Give me an example if you dont mind.


You got it right it fits between the preamp and turntable. Here is a link to needledoctor so you can see a few phono pre's
http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Phono-Preamps
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:15 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

wow :shock:
TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black serial #0001
A Lightstar or two
Cherry/260's
Carver 490t
Sunfire Tube preamp
ProJect TT Tube preamp
DENON DP-62L TurnTable
Dual CS5000 Turn Table
DQ-20's
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:36 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

MRHP wrote:wow :shock:


I have the modded phono stage that Bob did, Mike thanks for posting the pictures.
I also have a second system set up, on that system I use a ProJect Tube BoX SE II phone preamp and it sound real nice.

http://www.needledoctor.com/Pro-Ject-Tu ... gory=35467

At the moment, its $749.00 usd at Needledoctor, but my local store has a like new demo for $349.00 cnd plus 13% tax
I think it's a real good buy. If you are interested in the demo unit let me know.

Brian
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:37 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

Yes Im interested in the demo. I gotta tell ya I looked to see what state you were from with that 13% tax #-o :lol: :lol:

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TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black serial #0001
A Lightstar or two
Cherry/260's
Carver 490t
Sunfire Tube preamp
ProJect TT Tube preamp
DENON DP-62L TurnTable
Dual CS5000 Turn Table
DQ-20's
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:52 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

MRHP wrote:Yes Im interested in the demo. I gotta tell ya I looked to see what state you were from with that 13% tax #-o :lol: :lol:

PM sent


He's waaaaaaaaaaayyyy up north! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:16 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

eehhh....take off hosser... :lol: :lol:
Mbskeam


#1 BLACK BEAUTY's made by the man, the myth, the legend Bob Carver
CARVER: TFM-75, TFM-45(3), SD/A-490T
SUNFIRE: Tube pre
2 sets of ALS'3, set of SILVERS, set of PLATS
AUDIOCONTROL: phase coupled activator
KENWOOD: BASIC M2a (2)

“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”
― Aristophanes

The only thing I'll feel......will be the RECOIL
Necronomicon Ex-Mortis....... Klaatu Barada Nikkto
"We should seek the greatest value of our action"
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Post Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:35 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

Ed

Your brand new Project Tubed Phono Box SE II shipped today.
The preamp was not a demo, but a brand new unit, dealer overstock not bad for $349.00 cnd + 13% tax.

Brian
VPI Classic Turntable (blk)
Transfiguration Phoenix Cartridge
Sunfire Vacuum Tube Control Centre. C/W Mod'ed Phono Stage
Carver Silver 7's Tube Amps
Raysonic CD-168 CDP (silver)
Carver TX11.
B&W 802D's Rosenut
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Post Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:50 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

Its Eric but whos counting :D

I will gladly pay the 13% for that kind of deal. \:D/

Thanks Brian, just PM your address to me so I can get you paid up. That was quite stand up of you to ship it before seeing any $$$ =D>
TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black serial #0001
A Lightstar or two
Cherry/260's
Carver 490t
Sunfire Tube preamp
ProJect TT Tube preamp
DENON DP-62L TurnTable
Dual CS5000 Turn Table
DQ-20's
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
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Post Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:23 pm

Re: 490t tube change time??

MRHP wrote:Its Eric but whos counting :D

Eric

OK I f**ked up again it's Eric not Ed, as for shipping before any $$$ has changed hands, I am a very trusting person.
In 14 years making deals on the net, I'v only been screwed 3 times., looks like I never learn. ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

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VPI Classic Turntable (blk)
Transfiguration Phoenix Cartridge
Sunfire Vacuum Tube Control Centre. C/W Mod'ed Phono Stage
Carver Silver 7's Tube Amps
Raysonic CD-168 CDP (silver)
Carver TX11.
B&W 802D's Rosenut
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