The NEW 2012 "ALS" Concept - Design - Production

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Re: The NEW 2010 "ALS" Concept - Design - Product

Post by edriz » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:09 pm

Hhmmm, guess these aint goin to be for the average home then ay?

Just a lil tall!!
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Re: The NEW 2010 "ALS" Concept - Design - Product

Post by Toy Maker » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:29 pm

edriz wrote:Hhmmm, guess these aint goin to be for the average home then ay?

Just a lil tall!!
There are already other ideas being thrown around.... 8)

an optional wood veneer treatment would be inpressive as well...
I know.... 8) I prefer Ebony !

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Re: The NEW 2010 "ALS" Concept - Design - Product

Post by BillD » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:35 pm

Exactly how tall do you plan to make them. Will they fit inside a 10' ceiling?
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Re: The NEW 2010 "ALS" Concept - Design - Product

Post by Toy Maker » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:02 pm

They will be about 92' - 94" tall. They will fit in an 8-foot tall room.
8 feet is the standard height of most homes built in the last 20-30 years.
I know there are taller and shorted (those can be addressed later) :D
8' is the standard, so we are starting there....

Don't forget, these are an extrusion...
I can get it ANY length I want. 1" or 24 feet, it makes no difference to the extruder.

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Re: The NEW 2010 "ALS" Concept - Design - Product

Post by stevewithrow » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:04 pm

Toy Maker wrote:
edriz wrote:Hhmmm, guess these aint goin to be for the average home then ay?

Just a lil tall!!
There are already other ideas being thrown around.... 8)

an optional wood veneer treatment would be inpressive as well...
I know.... 8) I prefer Ebony !
carbon fiber......

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Post by Toy Maker » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:21 pm

been thinking about this for almost 2 years, trust me, we got tons of ideas and finishes in mind. Gotta get them to WORK 1st :lol:

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Post by Mr. M-500t » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:24 pm

Powder coating and painting doesn't work well with aluminum. You'd be miles ahead James to pay the price if you can find someone to anodize those MoFo's. Take it from the AVRiser guy !

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Post by engtaz » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:26 pm

James, just do as told. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The NEW 2010 "ALS" Concept - Design - Product

Post by treitz3 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:12 pm

James, I just got done watching the CF interview part IV and Bob had mentioned the carbon fiber as the shell. Is that gonna be a special order or what happened with that idea? I know they will be expensive [without a doubt] but is that idea on the backburner now or what?
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Re: The NEW 2010 "ALS" Concept - Design - Product

Post by gdb » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:48 pm

Maybe mill in toothed grooves to accept splines that would hold some nice leather taut on the surface. :-"

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Re: The NEW 2010 "ALS" Concept - Design - Product

Post by Toy Maker » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:42 pm

treitz3 wrote:James, I just got done watching the CF interview part IV and Bob had mentioned the carbon fiber as the shell. Is that gonna be a special order or what happened with that idea? I know they will be expensive [without a doubt] but is that idea on the backburner now or what?
One of the original finishes we talked about 2 years ago was carbon fiber. More of a finish, not the actual structure.

Bob's original idea was to make the housing from a wood product. Given the actual size and complexity of the profile, wood was out of the question in my eyes right off the bat.
It took me about 3 months to convince him that aluminum was the way to go.
Colors, covering, laminates, composites... it's all do-able

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Re: The NEW 2010 "ALS" Concept - Design - Product

Post by Rainman » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:32 am

Toy Maker wrote:
One of the original finishes we talked about 2 years ago was carbon fiber. More of a finish, not the actual structure.
Did I read Carbon Fiber? That will make them much more appealing to those who are placed into the true racer mentality stereotype like myself! #1 Anything made from Carbon is cool. #2 Things made from Carbon are super lightweight which makes them cool. #3 Things made from Carbon are really strong so when someone falls while carrying them they are likely to survive a flight down the back stairs at CF much better than Tyler Acoustics chosen material of wood, this makes them even cooler. #4 Did I mention Carbon is cool?
Yes we love the Carbon, my wife made a custom fit and formed windshield cover out of Carbon cloth for one of our favorite race cars, and this too was cool!

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Post by TNRabbit » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:55 am

Toy Maker wrote:Sub not needed per Bob.
I shall be very surprised if this is true...
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Re: The NEW 2010 "ALS" Concept - Design - Product

Post by treitz3 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:22 am

Gary, I forget the math as it was relayed to me many moons ago but IIRC the surface radiating area of these speakers is equivalent to either a 15 or 17" woofer. They may not have enough bass to move walls in and out but it damn sure won't be lacking in that department either.
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Re: The NEW 2010 "ALS" Concept - Design - Product

Post by TNRabbit » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:46 am

I understand the math & what the total numbers are, I just find it hard to believe ANY number of tiny-ass drivers could reproduce LOW bass~

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