The NEW 2012 "ALS" Concept - Design - Production

I dunno. I heard a speaker [forgot what kind] a decade or so ago that had a line array much like the ones Bob's building and I was surprised at the low frequency output. Some of the sharpest, cleanest bass I've heard to date as well. I can't wait to hear the concept.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not crapping on them....just will be surprised~

SURPRISE ME, JAMES!!

I would expect about the save level of bass a set of Platinums produced.
In my opinion I always thought they needed a sub as well.
Those that are used to alot of bass will want a sub...
the rest should be plenty happy with the amount of bass they will produce.

I can't wait to see the Active Tube EQ he is working on for them !!!
They are going to have VERY MINIMAL passive components, the majority of the equalization will be done prior to the amplifier.
and the EQ will also have a subwoofer output/option. If and when you add a sub, the EQ for the speakers will change to a 3 way system. (or something like that)

I can't wait to hear the concept.

Screw that man... I cannot wait to own them!

Will there be a Carver Financial Services division to finance them?

A lot of Polk speakers produce very low frquency bass with only 4- 6.5" drivers but, they also use a large passive radiator too. I was always amazed at the bass levels produed by the aluminum bodied Minimus 7s by Rat Shack with only a 3.5" "woofer". The VM series looks a bit similar in overall shape, if not driver choice and arrangement. My little VM-20 puts out surprising bass for such a small cabinet. Can't wait to see the finished prototype!



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I understand the math & what the total numbers are, I just find it hard to believe ANY number of tiny-ass drivers could reproduce LOW bass~

A lot of Polk speakers produce very low frquency bass with only 4- 6.5" drivers but, they also use a large passive radiator too. I was always amazed at the bass levels produced by them

Let's not forget that many Polk speakers were created with Mr. Carver sharing driver technologies and "secrets" with them. My wife and I have a sub which she bought employee purchase when she was media mgr. for Best Buy corp. This sub was represented as among their high quality stuff and was certainly priced as such. The sub was marketed under the company name of Eosone, and guess what.... It was made by Polk, but guess what.... When Mr. Carver saw it he said he was brought in by Polk to help with designing it. Once it hit the stores Mr. Carver was getting a nice bonus check from Mr. Polk every so often for helping and also sharing some of his driver tech. with them. (things are not always as they seem, and your results may vary)

Rainman

Yeah, yeah ,yeah I've heard all the Carver vs. Polk retorts "ad puke'eum" and then some. BUT.... the method for bass production in early speaker offerings from both camps, diverge big time. Large active woofers for C. and small mid-woofers plus a large passive radiator for P. If any "driver technology" was shared by the two, it sure wasn't the choice of speaker compliance material. Butyl rubber as opposed to garden variety foam?? Did you get the ring and secret handshake yet??

gdb, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. I'm looking at my Sunfire True Subwoofer Mk.II with a butyl rubber surround on the 10" active driver AND the passive radiator.

gdb, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. I'm looking at my Sunfire True Subwoofer Mk.II with a butyl rubber surround on the 10" active driver AND the passive radiator.

did you read this: "early speaker offerings"

was that something in this thread that I missed?

Yeah, yeah ,yeah I've heard all the Carver vs. Polk retorts "ad puke'eum" and then some. BUT.... the method for bass production in early speaker offerings from both camps, diverge big time. Large active woofers for C. and small mid-woofers plus a large passive radiator for P. If any "driver technology" was shared by the two, it sure wasn't the choice of speaker compliance material. Butyl rubber as opposed to garden variety foam?? Did you get the ring and secret handshake yet??

The handshake thing is an urban legend. I used to own an electronics/audio store and knew many people from various manufacturers so you tend to find out stuff that you can't read about. For example there are many companies who have sold woofers with their name on it like they made it, but the ENTIRE woofer was actually licensed to them by Mr. Carver!
I can give one example of something similar that will make you guys $hit yourself,
Mr. Carver has worked with and swapped, traded, shared driver technology with......
are you ready for this....... LINN!
I already know many of you won't believe that but it's true so I will go ahead and say it ahead of time "If you are among those who won't believe that, feel free to keep your mouth and keyboard quiet." You do not need to tell me you disagree or don't believe it, I already know that. Thanks.

Can you tell someone got me wound up?

Rainman

Damn you guys can take ANY subject off topic

You're losing control of your thread, James!

Damn you guys can take ANY subject off topic

James I am sorry about taking your productive thread beyond "jacking" and all the way to "Jacking it off" My apologies. And thank you for pointing that out.

Mike

Wow! This thread went off topic.

Very excited to hear Mr Carver is making a comeback!

I would love to hear his new speakers. I own a pair of his original Amazing Loud Speakers and love them.

I would really like to hear his new speakers in comparison.