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Post Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:01 pm

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Also, will the old Phase Linears handle this load?
...Anyone know??? :-s I wouldn't think so....
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Post Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:11 pm

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Well, they have a lot of grunt, but I really don't know.
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Post Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:29 pm

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I agree. M500 and M500t will not be able to run the Original Amazings. Not enough power and won't go low enough for the less than 2 ohm load the OA present.
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Post Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:21 pm

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BillD wrote:I don't think the M-500t has the balls for the original Amazing ribbons. Maybe if you had a pair of them bi-amped with an active crossover in front of them so they wouldn't have to amplify the entire audio spectrum, they might do.


been there done that...the 500ts WILL run the ALS with an active cross(used a ber*@ger..junk sorry) however they will heat up quick time and will still go into protection quickly when playing at anywhere near high volume...
do Older Gentlemen listen at anywhere near reference levels? :lol:

the Original will present loads of 1r when pushed and the m500t is just NOT repeat NOT able to handle the load.
think 100 lb guy trying to push an early 90's fleetwood up a steep hill..perhaps possible but not good..
best advice from another un(semi)employed ALS owner either save up like T-rex3 advises(Lightstar..oh Lightstar)..or...if like me you are into instant gratification...take your $600 or so and try an find an a760.
not the most "musical" of Carver amps, but will deliver clean sound and can handle the low R the ALS present.
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Post Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:05 am

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Post Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:53 pm

Re: "Budget" amp for original Amazings

I have 2 m1.0t amps bridged to power my 60" ribbon amazings. I know this is a rookie question but do my amazings dip too low in impedence for this arrangement? Also am I not getting the kind of sound these are capable of. For having 8 12" woofers the bass has been somewhat of a disappointment and I find myself having to use a subwoofer. #-o
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Post Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:09 pm

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h2oskiwme2008 wrote:I have 2 m1.0t amps bridged to power my 60" ribbon amazings. I know this is a rookie question but do my amazings dip too low in impedence for this arrangement? Also am I not getting the kind of sound these are capable of. For having 8 12" woofers the bass has been somewhat of a disappointment and I find myself having to use a subwoofer. #-o


I am not sure if all the ALS are 8 ohm. I do know that some are 4 ohm. Best to put a volt meter on them and see.

There are a lot of members here that will say that when you bridge an amp you will not get as good of base response. I only have a small amount of experance with bridging into ALS speakers and found the bigger the amp the better the base is. I know beemers417 has two A-760x's bridged into his ALS Plat MKIV's and it sounds pretty good.
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Post Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:51 pm

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BillD wrote:Sunfire



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Post Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:06 pm

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frankieD wrote:
BillD wrote:Sunfire



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Post Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:29 pm

Re: "Budget" amp for original Amazings

Sunfire is a great choice. Lightstar is even better. Though neither are a "Budget" amp.

Though if you want to drive a set of ALS speakers, one should budget for a high output amp.
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Post Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:48 pm

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The M 4.0t perhaps will do an adequate job, but I am talking out my ass as I do not know for sure.
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Post Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:43 pm

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Scarabeo wrote:
frankieD wrote:
BillD wrote:Sunfire



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Post Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:20 pm

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nooshinjohn wrote:The M 4.0t perhaps will do an adequate job, but I am talking out my ass as I do not know for sure.


I'm doing this right now and it will work to get you by. I used the M4.0t on my MarkIVs and it did a far superior job but probably still not enough.

Using it on the originals, I was definitely left wanting more power. Feed me Seymour...feed me
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Post Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:17 am

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thuffman03 wrote:I am not sure if all the ALS are 8 ohm.
Just FYI, There are 4, 6 and 8 ohm models for the ALS's. I posted a breakdown of them sometime back.
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Post Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:02 pm

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treitz3 wrote:
thuffman03 wrote:I am not sure if all the ALS are 8 ohm.
Just FYI, There are 4, 6 and 8 ohm models for the ALS's. I posted a breakdown of them sometime back.


Thanks. I was pretty sure that they were all over the board on resistance.
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