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Post by TNRabbit » Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:39 pm

Too late, Bill; it's all put back together.

I'd like to ultimately replace the back plate with something a little more substantial, so maybe I'll get them out at some point in the future & we can map it together~
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Post by TNRabbit » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:23 pm

Uh-oh.......

went upstairs to shut the system down....one ribbon sounded...."down"....

I turned it up a little & it developed into a full-bore distortion-fest. So either one of the channels has gone on something in my stack or I've blown a ribbon...

Crap.



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Post by kingman » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:29 pm

HOLY CRAP!!!!....GREAT EXPERIMENT GONE TO SHIT!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Post by Zoot Horn » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:44 pm

hopefully something simple and inexpensive :-k

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Post by BillD » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:54 pm

Say it ain't the ribbon Gary.
It should sound like it isn't there!
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Post by Toy Maker » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:01 pm

BillD wrote:Say it ain't the ribbon Gary.
If it is, I know a guy, that knows a guy, that might be able to help you :lol:

Gotta be careful man, don't forget, with the Sig.... you are dumping about 800w @ 4-Ohms into the ribbons... They won't take that. [-X

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Post by TNRabbit » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:31 pm

James, what's the going rate for a rebuilt (or NOS) 48" ribbon these days?

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for you.....









































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Post by BillD » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:40 pm

It should sound like it isn't there!
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Re: *~Gone Active~*

Post by Toy Maker » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:42 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
those will sound like dog-shit compared to the Carvers

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Post by TNRabbit » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:06 pm

False alarm~

After much careful troubleshooting & piddling around, I tracked it down to a poor connection on one of the screw-in bananas going from the PS Audio speaker cables into the speaker. It was loose almost to the point of falling off (must've been the pounding I'd given it today).

That was a warning call to me so I'm going to tread more lightly, wait on my EQs, & first thing tomorrow get some 2 & 3 amp fuses until I figure out which ones are appropriate. Fuses are one HELL of a lot cheaper than ribbons~

I know my stuff pretty darned well & NEVER run my speakers into distortion. When I'm testing the limits, I always have a finger on the mute button & more often than not on the power button as well. I really didn't think I'd taken them to the ragged edge and I really don't like the way things sound there, anyway.

Anyway, I'll be much more judicious with power application from now on...
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Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

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Post by OconeeOrange » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:25 pm

I did something similar once with good head phones and parts from an old WEBTV unit. At the end of it all - good sound, but not sure if there was more than a "mental" improvement.

It kept me occupied and was fun.

You are having fun and also get better sound :rolleyes:

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Post by mbskeam » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:29 pm

well thats good..... \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

so with the ranes you can take away from a specific hz? ie notch at 5790hz
couldn't this be done the same with a 31 band eq?
or do the ranes zero in right at the hz you are looking to change?
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Post by stevewithrow » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:32 pm

TNRabbit wrote:False alarm~

After much careful troubleshooting & piddling around, I tracked it down to a poor connection on one of the screw-in bananas going from the PS Audio speaker cables into the speaker. It was loose almost to the point of falling off (must've been the pounding I'd given it today).

That was a warning call to me so I'm going to tread more lightly, wait on my EQs, & first thing tomorrow get some 2 & 3 amp fuses until I figure out which ones are appropriate. Fuses are one HELL of a lot cheaper than ribbons~

I know my stuff pretty darned well & NEVER run my speakers into distortion. When I'm testing the limits, I always have a finger on the mute button & more often than not on the power button as well. I really didn't think I'd taken them to the ragged edge and I really don't like the way things sound there, anyway.

Anyway, I'll be much more judicious with power application from now on...
*5* *5* *5* *5* =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> 8-[

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Post by TNRabbit » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:03 pm

mbskeam wrote:well thats good..... \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

so with the ranes you can take away from a specific hz? ie notch at 5790hz
couldn't this be done the same with a 31 band eq?
or do the ranes zero in right at the hz you are looking to change?
A graphic EQ has set bands; these Rane parametric EQs have a constantly variable pot that lets you specify exactly which frequency to boost or cut & how wide or narrow you want the affected area to be
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Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

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RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.

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