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Post Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:50 pm

Appogee Duettas- Carver AL clones ??

Just saw these and they looked strangely familiar! :?

http://www.avguide.com/blog/high-end-au ... ical-brain


Anyone know how these compare with ALs ?? :-k


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Post Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:48 pm

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Dude; Apogees came LONG before the Amazings...
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Post Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:38 pm

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Never knew! They sure look similar! :-"
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Post Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:57 pm

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And they are harder to drive, dipping down to 1 ohm, maybe lower.
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Post Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:45 pm

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How tall are they? 3 feet?
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Post Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:49 pm

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If I remember correctly they are all ribbon no cone woofers. They are also very power hungry.
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Post Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:59 pm

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treitz3 wrote:How tall are they? 3 feet?


About 5 feet, IIRC.
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Post Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:36 am

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Snoop65 wrote:If I remember correctly they are all ribbon no cone woofers. They are also very power hungry.


My Pair was more Power Thirsty then Hungry :-k
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F1nut wrote:
treitz3 wrote:How tall are they? 3 feet?


About 5 feet, IIRC.
Hmmm, that pic is deceiving. It looks like they are a lot smaller just based upon the CD case and all of the equipment on the apparent "upper level". I didn't factor that into the equation. Thank you Jesse.
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Post Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:12 pm

Re: Appogee Duettas- Carver AL clones ??

I know this is an older post, but wanted to add my 2 cents. I have had 3 sets of Apogee planar ribbon speakers - the Caliper, the Stage and the Duetta Signature. I have to tell you, these are GREAT sounding speakers. Sonically, they exceed anything else I've ever owned. My criteria is the most realistic, and lifelike sound, not the best bass, dynamic slam, or highs, etc. i.e., the ones which make you believe there are no speakers in the room. So open and sweet in every frequency range! The bass is vastly superior to Magnepans, or, (I'm sorry) carver ALS, Platinum's, etc. The mids blend seamlessly with the bass, and the highs are very very good, although not quite up to the bass/midrange. Even there, the highs exceed just about anything else you'll hear, excluding Diamond tweeters or similar cutting edge stuff.
They are also FRAGILE, and HEAVY, and construction of the outer frame does little to protect those so easily destroyed drive units. Furthermore, they do require amplifiers that can handle low impedance and have lots and lots of current capability. On top of that, they are unfortunately easily over driven and the aluminum grids on the planar bass driver fail from metal fatigue. Once those are damaged, it costs several THOUSAND,( maybe $ 5000(?) bucks to have them shipped out and repaired.I compromised and always ran mine actively crossed over to transmission loaded woofers at 60 hz. or so. The Apogee's actually still sounded better by themselves, but it did cut down significantly on the ribbon excursions with low bass.

In other words, these are for the wealthy, and all others should stay away from them rather then torture themselves once they've heard them.
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Post Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:28 pm

Re: Appogee Duettas- Carver AL clones ??

BOB (CARVER) owned and owns several pair of APOGEE SPEAKERS...
He said when he listens to them he realizes that he is in the presence of greatness...
Their first speaker, THE FULL RANGE, was released in 1982.
His favorite is the "SCINTILLA"...released in 1985...the "DUETTA" was released in 1986
The Scintilla can be wired as a 1 or 4 ohm load....1 ohm is sonically preferred...(measured impedance 0.88 ohms)
His amps "LOAD INVARIENT" Carver Lightstar and Sunfire 300x2 and 600x2 were designed to handle the low impedance
THE "SCINTILLA MOD" (resistor) allows the current limiting circuit in the Sunfire to drive a speaker as low as 0.5 ohms
The Scintilla was known as "THE AMP KILLER"
Many used Krell amps with the Scintilla....and burned them up.

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