Awful Smell From My Amazings

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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by kingman » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:01 am

OconeeOrange wrote:Before you go tearing your stuff up - 8-[

Last week I had the same problem with my great BOSE speakers. I panicked until I realized my Bride had farted near the bass tube.
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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by treitz3 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:06 am

So, you had a chance to figure out what's going on with them yet?
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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by tah800 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:45 pm

I can't seem to find anything. Could have got hot enough to stink but not do any damage. Might have burned voice coils a bit but I tried pushing on the center of the honeycomb part of the speakers and I don't here any noise. Thinking about my woofers however and thinking since they are probably over 20 years old maybe its time to start replacing them. I went on the Dynavox sight and noticed they really got pushed up in price. For me here in Canada that's probably close to 100 bucks a pop. Nearly a grand to replace all of them. Gary said they were on sale awhile back. If anyone notices another sale maybe you could give me a heads up if they come on again. I could pick up used ones but they would probably be as old as the ones I'm replacing. Just getting ready to redo the platinum upgrades I acquired about a year ago. Was able to find Cardas 9.5 guage hookup wire at a place called Percy Audio in California. He also had the Rhodium-Gold binding posts so I ordered a set of those also. Will send my money order on Monday. May have one bad ribbon. As I reported in an earlier post it had been stuffed with pieces of felt which I removed. I'll know better when I fire them up. If they are it might be time for a little field trip to New York. Art

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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by skip » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:18 am

Art, I'd bet on it being the 150uf100vnp capacitor. I'v let the "magic smoke" out of two of mine. It is the large black cap. If you have a silver cap with no markings, it's probably that cap with the vinyl cover melted off of it. If that turns out to be the culprit, replace it with a higher voltage cap with the same pf rating.
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Post by TNRabbit » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:49 am

Yeah, but we SAW the smoke before we noticed anything wrong with yours, Skip~ :lol:
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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by tah800 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:53 am

These are my Carver Originals. I don't see anything that is black on the crossover boards . On my spare set which are converted originals to platinums there are some black things in the crossover. Everything on my Original set is either yellow or blue. Being honest here I don't even know what a cap is.
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Post by TNRabbit » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:30 am

Nothing OBVIOUSLY toasted there. Like I said, borrow that Multi-Meter & check your impedance first.
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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by treitz3 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:46 pm

TNRabbit wrote:Yeah, but we SAW the smoke before we noticed anything wrong with yours, Skip~ :lol:
Not really, I heard something wrong before the cap went bad. I remember that distinctly.

Gary is correct in that nothing is obvious. How bad was the smell? Maybe it was dust burning on the ribbon assembly creating a short for a stint.

When did you have to push foam in the ribbon assembly....before or after the smell appeared?
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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by tah800 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:02 pm

O.K. just ot clarify. The felt I mentioned in the earlier post referred to my spare set of speakers that I purchased awhile back. The smell came from my original set of Carvers that I have owned since the beginning. The crossover in the picture was taken awhile ago not after the incident. One other post had mentioned checking on a black capacitor. The photo was to show there were no black caps on the crossovers of my originals. The one the person mentioned probably was in a platinum crossover. Sorry about the confusion Art. P.S. Probably should read the entire post. I shouldn't have mentioned my spare set or put in a photo that didn't refer to the actual problem .

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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by mbskeam » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:26 pm

did it smell of varnish? kinda like burnt motor windings....
along time ago I fried 2 woofers, and after there was a varnish burnt smell in the air. not real strong but there...
after you could the voice coils scraping....
got them replaced under warranty, that was in 93, about 1 month left till the end of my warranty...., carver was still in lynnhood then...
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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by TNRabbit » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:44 pm

The reason for burnt varnish smell is the voice coil winding is coated with varnish when it's done to hold it together.

I'm suspecting this little fucker RIGHT HERE:
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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by F1nut » Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:00 am

That resistor in the lower left corner doesn't look all that healthy.
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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by skip » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:49 am

Sorry Art, I was referring to a Plat x-over. Good eye Jesse, that pink discoloration does indeed look suspicious.
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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by Mr. M-500t » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:14 am

skip wrote:Sorry Art, I was referring to a Plat x-over. Good eye Jesse, that pink discoloration does indeed look suspicious.
Good eye Jesse, that pink discoloration does indeed look suspicious.

I agree Skip, Hey Art, stick your nose down by that sucker and smell if you can smell anything ! :D

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Re: Awful Smell From My Amazings

Post by tah800 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:31 am

So how would I check it to see if it's dead or not

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