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BillD

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Post Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:08 am

Re: Carver original ALS

That Adcom doesn't have enough gas. You need an amp that can put out one HORSEPOWER per channel.
It should sound like it isn't there!
There is a difference between hearing and listening...
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Post Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:40 am

Re: Carver original ALS

clhs04 wrote:thanks Zoot Horn. Like your avatar. I'm gonna take a guess. Is that L. Claypool? can't see well but guessing it's a bass he's holding...if i'm way off sorry.
hs



Not a bass & not Les Claypool~
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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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Post Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:45 pm

Re: Carver original ALS

kingman wrote:WELCOME!!!! =D> A Sunfire amp will do the trick!!!

Yeah, plus the sound you will get will GREAT and you will hear things in the recording you never heard before! I say go 100% with a Sunfire & for the money it don't get any better!
BillD, You will be forever with us! RIP until we meet again on the other side...
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abcoz

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Post Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:08 pm

Re: Carver original ALS

I pulled my Carver ALS Originals out of the closet last month and fired them up after 15 years in storage. In the early 1990's I drove them with a pair of M1.0t's bridged to mono, so I tried that again. Unfortunately one of the M1.0s was dead, but I did use the other to drive each speaker separately. The M1.0/ALS performed fine and the amp handled the load at high volumes (the ribbons and 7 of the woofers were good). I replaced the bad woofer with one from Parts Express.

Wanting to listen to both speakers, I went back to the closet and pulled out a Sunfire Cinema Grand (5 x 200). It sounded good, but needs to be driven pretty hard to get loud volumes.

My plan was to sell the speakers, but my wife likes the sound so much she wants to keep them.

So my question - Should I have the M1.0 repaired, continue to use the Sunfire or get a new amp(s)?
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TNRabbit

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Post Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:23 pm

Re: Carver original ALS

Driving Originals with a bridged amp is asking to burn it up. Those speakers dip down to around 1 ohm at some frequencies & present an impossible load to a bridged amp. It has GOT to be struggling internally....it's only a matter of time until the remaining amp goes.

The Sunfire amps are MUCH happier driving a low impedance load, even if you have to crank it higher to get the volume. Personally, I'd sell your three amps & put the money toward a Sunfire 600x2, but that's just me~

Which Parts Express woofer did you use? The woofers in the ALS were a very special, custom design that you can't just toss anything into. Only one place has direct replacements: Dynavox/Orevox.

...and WELCOME!
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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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abcoz

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Post Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:34 pm

Re: Carver original ALS

My mistake it was Orevox (SW1220FL).

Thanks for the input. The Sunfire 600 sounds like a good solution.

By the way I ran the Originals with the two M1.0t's bridge for over 5 years at extremely loud volumes (in my younger years) with no problems. The amp died sitting in the closet.
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TNRabbit

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Post Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:53 pm

Re: Carver original ALS

I'm betting if they were opened up they'd have burned areas on the boards from overheating~ I'd say you were lucky...

Good luck in your search for amplification!
TNRabbit
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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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