I had the speakers set up side by side with the Martin Logan Aerius 1 I bought to replace the Originals. The guy asked if I would mind hooking up the Martin Logans and listening the the same tracks of music. I almost backed out of the sale. My "EX" Originals completely blew the Martin Logans out of the water. Since then I have tried about fifteen different placements of the Martin's, to find the so called "sweet and juicy like these nutz. SPOT" and I have been able to "Good Spots" but nothing like the "sweet and juicy like these nutz. Sound" of the originals. I'm driving my wife crazy but I'm going to sell the Martins and get me another set of Carver's (this time with a much smaller foot print).
When I had two M-4.0t's driving my Originals I would have put them up against ANY speaker under ten grand.
Sorry MO in CO.