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NY_EE

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Post Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:18 pm

Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

Thought you might like these photos. This is the standard AL-III+ woofer and crossover. I had a rattle in this woofer so I pulled it to check it out. Reinstalled it tight and voila! No more rattle.
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Post Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:46 pm

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

When I first got my AL III's I thought that the rattle I had was in the ribbon but it is in the sub. I have not gotten around yet to doing this.

Cool pic's.
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Post Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:38 am

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

Heres the deal , I have AL-III,s also . My subs rattled , replaced them and still heard the rattle . What I found is the screws that hold the bottom plate need to be resealed . Any air that can escape from the sub enclosure will make a rattle sound........My original subs are back in now ....
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Post Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:28 am

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That is NOT the same woofer they used on the AL-III standard. I'm wondering if they changed the woofer between the models or if your woofers were replaced at some point. Are you the original owner?
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Post Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:27 pm

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

I am not the original owner. I bought them from Craigslist. The man I bought them from said he drove from Buffalo to New Jersey to pick them up from a store that was closing. They are not AL-III they are AL-III Plus. The crosssover is non-adjustable.
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Post Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:30 pm

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

I think the real problem is that the screw holes are stripped. Look at the bottom of the enclosure where the sub is removed. Some of the holes are even cracked. Cheap MDF that these are made of is rotten stuff for holding wood screws. I think I am going to replace the wood screws with t-nuts mounted in drilled-through holes and machine screws. Eventually the movement of the sub will loosen these screws.
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Post Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:12 pm

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

Use wooden toothpicks when you reinstall. Put them in the screw holes.
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Post Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:27 pm

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

NY_EE wrote:I think the real problem is that the screw holes are stripped. Look at the bottom of the enclosure where the sub is removed. Some of the holes are even cracked. Cheap MDF that these are made of is rotten stuff for holding wood screws. I think I am going to replace the wood screws with t-nuts mounted in drilled-through holes and machine screws. Eventually the movement of the sub will loosen these screws.

Put a dab of silicon , reseal......It drove me nuts until I discovered the problem . My where not striped . But I did notice they came sealed from the factory .
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Post Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:46 pm

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

engtaz wrote:Use wooden toothpicks when you reinstall. Put them in the screw holes.


That is exactly what I had to do, Roy.

Also, I'm certain that isn't the original woofer from the factory. They are completely different, so it appears the previous owner replaced the woofers....
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Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
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Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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Post Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:49 am

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

Thanks for the responses gentlemen. Does anyone have a shot of the original woofers? The magnet in my picture looks pretty large, typical of a high-wattage type driver, but the basket is the cheap stamped kind. I'm not sure of the manufacturer. Carver didn't make his own woofers, right? I think there is another thread on this I will look for it.
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Post Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:36 am

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

Yes, those wooofers were special built to Bob specs
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Post Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:15 am

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

I've looked all over but can't find any pics of the original woofers. Jimmy Neutron used to have pics on his site, but it's not longer up. I sent him a PM to see why...
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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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Post Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:18 pm

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

Both pairs of ALIII woofs I have look like this.

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Post Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:54 pm

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Thanks a lot, mine definitely don't look like that, Jim. Wonder what I actually have...
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Post Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:49 am

Re: Hi-Res AL-III internal photos (beware big files)

Well, either Carver changed between the AL-III and the AL-III Plus, or yours have been replaced.

James, what do your AL-III plus speakers look like? You can remove the crossover & get a peek a lot easier than removing the bottom of the speaker...
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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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