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BillD

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(pair of) SILVER-7 TUBE AMPs

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Post Wed May 20, 2009 7:30 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

NEED MORE POWER
It should sound like it isn't there!
There is a difference between hearing and listening...
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PDR

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Post Wed May 20, 2009 7:51 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

The guy that I bought mine from was running a Rotel.....didnt seem to hurt them.
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BillD

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Post Wed May 20, 2009 7:56 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

Won't hurt the speakers if you don't clip the amps. They just won't sound up to their full potential until you've got a lot of gas behind them that can go into the low Z range without giving up (running out of current).
It should sound like it isn't there!
There is a difference between hearing and listening...
Making life enjoyable through expensive electronics.
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Sunfire:Theater Grand III processor, Ultimate Receiver, Cinema Grand Signature 400 ~ seven, True Subwoofer Mk. II, D-10 Subwoofer
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stevewithrow

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Post Wed May 20, 2009 8:01 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

Im thinking Sunfire 600x2.........
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Jag_97470

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Post Wed May 20, 2009 9:12 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

stevewithrow wrote:Im thinking Sunfire 600x2.........


I like the way you think!!! Awesome!!
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docadillac

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Post Wed May 20, 2009 10:58 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

I don't think it would damage the speakers by underdriving them. The dual 30 inch ribbons are the Original configuration. I believe the upgrade involved a change to single 60 inch ribbons, different woofers(not the flat honeycomb ones) and a modified crossover. The Signature would be great with all that muscle driving them. One sweet setup that's for sure. I love it. =D> =D> =D>
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Post Wed May 20, 2009 10:59 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

Jag_97470 wrote:
stevewithrow wrote:Im thinking Sunfire 600x2.........


I like the way you think!!! Awesome!!


Definitely!!! =D> =D> =D>
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Eddie

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Post Thu May 21, 2009 7:46 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

BillD wrote:NEED MORE POWER


Bill you are soooo right! 100 wpc wouldn't even hardly make them work! LOL
Steve do your self a favor and get the crossovers from George that he has! You never know when you may need them!
Steve the pic shows a very nice pair of originals!
Steve if you need any answers to questions give me a call! Eddie!
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tah800

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Post Thu May 21, 2009 7:48 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

Pulled the tape off the posts on those plats. I just had to include a shot of what I found. Never seen anything like this before. If you are a little unsure as to what you're looking at I'll include a couple of details. The white looking stuff is silicone. The wire was terminated with a cut in half copper plumbing clamp. It was srewed on with a large nut to something I haven't made out yet. On the other terminal,well your guess is as good as mine. I thought I'd seen it all
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stevewithrow

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Post Thu May 21, 2009 7:51 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

Eddie wrote:
BillD wrote:NEED MORE POWER


Bill you are soooo right! 100 wpc wouldn't even hardly make them work! LOL
Steve do your self a favor and get the crossovers from George that he has! You never know when you may need them!
Steve the pic shows a very nice pair of originals!
Steve if you need any answers to questions give me a call! Eddie!

Thank you Eddie , I might do that . It took me about 4 months to dial my AL-III,s in....Now back into un-charted water....For now I will use the TFM -35 knowing im only getting about 25 % of there capacity....as far as the picture above...yikes.....
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Eddie

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Post Thu May 21, 2009 7:53 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

Art I would say you better open up those speakers and see if there is any other thing that was done to them!
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docadillac

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Post Thu May 21, 2009 10:12 pm

Re: Need Good Advice

Art, That wiring looks suspect to say the least. It would make me wonder if there are any other surprises. I hope it's alright.
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skip

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Post Fri May 22, 2009 6:43 am

Re: Need Good Advice

Somebody that would do that to an ALS should be locked in a room for life with only a Bose wave radio to listen to.
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frankieD

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Post Fri May 22, 2009 10:20 am

Re: Need Good Advice

skip wrote:Somebody that would do that to an ALS should be locked in a room for life with only a Bose wave radio to listen to.



Skip, you are one cold dude!
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BillD

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Post Fri May 22, 2009 10:28 am

Re: Need Good Advice

He could have said an iPod with original ear-buds loaded with MP3s all ripped at 128 kbps.
It should sound like it isn't there!
There is a difference between hearing and listening...
Making life enjoyable through expensive electronics.
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Carver: C-4000 & C-1 preamps, PSC-60 preamp/tuner, TX-11a tuner, M-400 (2), C-500, M-500, M-500t, M-500t Mk.II, A-500x, AL-III loudspeakers (2 pr.)
Sunfire:Theater Grand III processor, Ultimate Receiver, Cinema Grand Signature 400 ~ seven, True Subwoofer Mk. II, D-10 Subwoofer
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