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stevewithrow

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Post Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:41 pm

ALS proto types.....

When I got my ALS,s the other day , the owners bought this mag at the same time they bought the speakers......Interesting....Shows the ALS,s with 6 square subs..I took my grills off , I only have the 4 honey comb ones....Any one ever seen these...?

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Post Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:19 pm

Re: ALS proto types.....

I've seen the advertisement. IIRC, they couldn't make the drivers work properly.

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Post Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:59 pm

Re: ALS proto types.....

Yeah, I have a copy of that ad printed as part of a brochure on Carver ALS's....a very cool look that didn't get translated into the actual production models. (I have a Sony stereo boom box from much later that has small square planar speakers that look similar to the ones in that picture, though).
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Post Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:08 pm

Re: ALS proto types.....

Reese wrote:Yeah, I have a copy of that ad printed as part of a brochure on Carver ALS's....a very cool look that didn't get translated into the actual production models. (I have a Sony stereo boom box from much later that has small square planar speakers that look similar to the ones in that picture, though).


Sony produces square woofers under their Xplod banner, I don't know if they suck or not.

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Post Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:10 pm

Re: ALS proto types.....

Pioneer also made square drivers in a 4-way design for car audio.
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Post Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:14 pm

Re: ALS proto types.....

I have a Kicker L5 solo barrick sub in my truck , it,s square and the SPL is unbelievable......
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Post Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:49 pm

Re: ALS proto types.....

There is an ancient thread on these drivers form a couple years back...

I remember talking to someone at Carver, and they said the corners kept ripping out of the square drivers, so they went back to the round ones.

I have a small 10" Kicker L5 in my office... It's soooo cute !!!!
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Post Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:26 am

Re: ALS proto types.....

Toy Maker wrote:...So I have to go with a pairs of 12" LJ W7's :shock:


Or JL Audio, even~



Sony DID make some square woofers that were VERY similar to those back in the 80s. I think the issue was that they required such massive excursion (take a look at ALS under full excursion sometime!) the corners hadn't reached today's technology to sustain it.
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Post Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:08 pm

Re: ALS proto types.....

I heard that because of the very low mass required for the right Q in that baffle, the material couldn't withstand the stress at the corners and would rip.
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Post Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:33 pm

Re: ALS proto types.....

I recently read the Stereo Review arical on them and they looked so cool with the square speakers. Too bad it seems there is an issue.
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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:54 pm

Re: ALS proto types.....

stevewithrow wrote:When I got my ALS,s the other day , the owners bought this mag at the same time they bought the speakers......Interesting....Shows the ALS,s with 6 square subs..I took my grills off , I only have the 4 honey comb ones....Any one ever seen these...?

review 2.jpg


review 1.jpg


Do we have this article anwhere on the Froum? I'd like to read it. Would someone who DOES have it send it to me....PLEASE?

ray
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Post Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:34 am

Re: ALS proto types.....

Magnaryder wrote:
stevewithrow wrote:When I got my ALS,s the other day , the owners bought this mag at the same time they bought the speakers......Interesting....Shows the ALS,s with 6 square subs..I took my grills off , I only have the 4 honey comb ones....Any one ever seen these...?

review 2.jpg


review 1.jpg


Do we have this article anwhere on the Froum? I'd like to read it. Would someone who DOES have it send it to me....PLEASE?

ray

I have the issue , I can see what I can do to scan it,,....
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Post Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:55 pm

Re: ALS proto types.....

stevewithrow wrote:
Magnaryder wrote:
stevewithrow wrote:When I got my ALS,s the other day , the owners bought this mag at the same time they bought the speakers......Interesting....Shows the ALS,s with 6 square subs..I took my grills off , I only have the 4 honey comb ones....Any one ever seen these...?

review 2.jpg


review 1.jpg


Do we have this article anwhere on the Froum? I'd like to read it. Would someone who DOES have it send it to me....PLEASE?

ray

I have the issue , I can see what I can do to scan it,,....


thanks man!!!

ray
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Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.

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