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Wilson Sophia's to be at CF this year!!!

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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:51 pm

Re: Wilson Sophia's to be at CF this year!!!

I appreciate you doing this because I would love to hear them.

=D> =D> =D> =D>
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:37 pm

Re: Keep your fingers crossed.

treitz3 wrote:Oh, I agree completely. Thing is, I have to "sell" or "pitch" what we plan on hooking these up too to Dustin. He's not the easiest sell in the world so I'm trying to get the game plan together so that I am prepared when he calls. He's all about what he sells and he frowns on anything that he doesn't. He is one of "those guys". [God, I hope he's not reading this or our chances of having them at the 'fest are blown] [-o<

I told Jim we might have a full set of MIT cables available to hook them up with and what gear this will be featured against and without hesitation, he said that we definitely qualify to have them there......it all boils down to Dustin and if I can sell him on the idea. If he OK's it? We are golden and they will be featured. You guys have no clue what I have been through just to get to this point. Keep your fingers crossed and [-o<


If not James- then maybe Brian? I think he has a pair showing up at the fest as well. :D
If those Sophia's do not sound fantastic with Bob's Silver 7 tube amps....then they never will! :lol: I do not think it gets any better than that other than maybe a Sigfried or Wotan amp! (YES- I am a VTL fan also :D )
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:07 pm

Re: Wilson Sophia's to be at CF this year!!!

Those silvers probably won't get off the new ALS's.
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:31 pm

Re: Wilson Sophia's to be at CF this year!!!

engtaz wrote:Those silvers probably won't get off the new ALS's.


Yeah, but there are supposed to be 2 pairs there....I do not think 115db speakers need to be bi-amped with close to 1KW of power! :D Even one pair would be overkill for that!
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:43 pm

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Chauss wrote:If not James- then maybe Brian? I think he has a pair showing up at the fest as well. :D
If those Sophia's do not sound fantastic with Bob's Silver 7 tube amps....then they never will!


My set of Silver 7 Tube Amp's are in transit at the moment on the way to Tom at VintageHiFi of Pittsburg to get checked out.

If they pass the test, and it's OK with Tom, as I had told him we would put them in Cabin 2 for him to play with.

It will be OK with me to set them up to power the Wilson Sophia's. I would love to hear
them and compare them to my B&W 802D's that sell for the same coin.

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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:12 pm

Re: Wilson Sophia's to be at CF this year!!!

Chauss wrote:
engtaz wrote:Those silvers probably won't get off the new ALS's.


Yeah, but there are supposed to be 2 pairs there....I do not think 115db speakers need to be bi-amped with close to 1KW of power! :D Even one pair would be overkill for that!

No such thing as over kill with amps. :o
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:15 pm

Re: Wilson Sophia's to be at CF this year!!!

engtaz wrote:
Chauss wrote:
engtaz wrote:Those silvers probably won't get off the new ALS's.


Yeah, but there are supposed to be 2 pairs there....I do not think 115db speakers need to be bi-amped with close to 1KW of power! :D Even one pair would be overkill for that!

No such thing as over kill with amps. :o


I was curious as to the specs so I looked them up.

Wilson Audio Specialties Sophia loudspeaker Specifications
Sidebar 1: Specifications
Description: Three-way, floorstanding, reflex-loaded loudspeaker. Drive-units: 1" (25mm) inverted titanium-dome tweeter, 7" (178mm) paper-cone midrange unit, 10" (254mm) aluminum-cone woofer. Frequency response: 29Hz-22.5kHz, +0/-3dB. Sensitivity: 89dB/2.83V/m. Impedance: 4 ohms nominal, 3 ohms minimum. Recommended power: >12Wpc.
Dimensions: 41" (1042mm) H by 12" (305mm) W by 18" (457mm) D. Weight: 160 lbs (72.7kg) each.
Finishes: High-gloss automotive paint.
Serial numbers of units reviewed: 0073 & 0074.
Price: $11,700/pair. Approximate number of dealers: 41.
Manufacturer: Wilson Audio Specialties Inc., 2233 Mountain Vista Lane, Provo, UT 84606. Tel: (801) 377-2233. Fax: (801) 377-2282. Web: www.wilsonaudio.com.
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:20 pm

Re: Keep your fingers crossed.

BrianT wrote:
Chauss wrote:If not James- then maybe Brian? I think he has a pair showing up at the fest as well. :D
If those Sophia's do not sound fantastic with Bob's Silver 7 tube amps....then they never will!


My set of Silver 7 Tube Amp's are in transit at the moment on the way to Tom at VintageHiFi of Pittsburg to get checked out.

If they pass the test, and it's OK with Tom, as I had told him we would put them in Cabin 2 for him to play with.

It will be OK with me to set them up to power the Wilson Sophia's. I would love to hear
them and compare them to my B&W 802D's that sell for the same coin.

Brian



Brian, those bad boys should make anything sing.

Not to dismiss Tom's efforts, but how did his borrowed speakers become the 'holy grail' of speakers?

Will they sound better than what the rabbit has modified and is bringing?

Only the ears know, but I don't see it as a given just because they are expensive.
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:43 pm

Re: Wilson Sophia's to be at CF this year!!!

Recommended power: >12Wpc
...Hell...just use the tube amps we are building... :-s
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:47 pm

Re: Wilson Sophia's to be at CF this year!!!

kingman wrote:
Recommended power: >12Wpc
...Hell...just use the tube amps we are building... :-s


Yeah, and many of us are building mono blocks - maybe :-"
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:58 pm

Re: Wilson Sophia's to be at CF this year!!!

That is EXACTLY why I posted the specs! Great idea! :D They only need >12 Watts....that only leaves out low powered SET amps, but not all of them.
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:30 pm

Re: Keep your fingers crossed.

OconeeOrange wrote:Not to dismiss Tom's efforts, but how did his borrowed speakers become the 'holy grail' of speakers?
Nobody has said this, mentioned this or even hinted at this. Only you.

OconeeOrange wrote:Will they sound better than what the rabbit has modified and is bringing?
That depends on the listener. Will they be more pinpoint in it's image presentation? Yes. Will it be louder? No. Will they be better than what Gary is bringing? Again, it depends on the listener and what his/her listening preferences are. This is not a contest. The spirit of Carverfest has never been about it being a contest to see who has "the best". It never will. If you do not want to listen to them? That's your choice but I'm trying to get them there so that the folks who know about these speakers and haven't had the chance to audition them can.

OconeeOrange wrote:Only the ears know, but I don't see it as a given just because they are expensive.
Money does not always equate to great sound reproduction.
In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:33 pm

Re: Wilson Sophia's to be at CF this year!!!

I heard them on some LAMM amps that put out about 30wpc. THey sounded pretty good.
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:36 pm

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treitz3 wrote:.
Will they be more pinpoint in it's image presentation? Yes. Will it be louder? No. Will they be better than what Gary is bringing? .


Never having heard Gary's modded gear, what do you base the yes on, the cost?
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Post Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:43 pm

The inherent properties of the speakers, how they are built and type of tweeter used. I'm very familiar with the drivers in the Wilson's, as that's what I have in my Tyler's and I have owned and listened to just about all of the ALS's on many a rig. So, I guess you can throw experience in the mix as well.
In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

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