WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by Chauss » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:58 pm

Snoop65 wrote:Let's hear what tubes you are using in your Sunfire Classic Tube preamp.
Now......just exactly how ya gonna hear em over the internet??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by Snoop65 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:36 pm

Chauss wrote:
Snoop65 wrote:Let's hear what tubes you are using in your Sunfire Classic Tube preamp.
Now......just exactly how ya gonna hear em over the internet??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Some days I just can figure out why we are friends!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by angelod307 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:06 pm

brain should chime in here anytime....
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by MRHP » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:20 pm

Lets get this rollin with some pics. I got a pistol carry case to protect my tubes. Works great!
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7308-E188CC-E88CC on the left 12AX7 and 12AU7 on the right
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by MRHP » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:54 pm

Here is a rundown of the tubes I have and how well they work.
6DJ8 style:
Amperex USN-CEP 7308 (said to be the military version of the Amperex PQ). My warmest tubes and nice sparkle on top.
Amperex USN-CEP 6922 Nearly identical to the above. Maybe a little more crisp on the top.
Siemens E188CC with rare A-Frame getter. These tubes are DEAD quiet with precision detail.
Siemens E88CC I have a pair but this tube usually works best in the V1 position. Incredible 3-D on the sound stage.
Mullard E188CC labeled (RTC) Sweet and whipped cream. These are my favorite right now. Smooth, liquid, velvet, wet. Music emerges out of a black silky background. I think my system is a little bright and thats why they work so well.
Valvo E188CC my brightest tube sometimes used in V1 with music that is recorded dull.

12AX7 style: These are used in my phono preamp only.
GE triple mica 5751 black plates Nice low noise, low gain, warm with great detail, easy to listen to
Telefunken ECC83 big sound big sound stage, liquid, awesome at high volume
Blackburn Mullard with Siemens printing and falcon logo ECC83 Warm, quiet with smooth top end and strong bass
German made RFT Ramshead ECC82 a cross between the three tubes above, the bass is a little thin, the top end is very very liquid. My cheapest tubes at $29 for the pair \:D/
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by Snoop65 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:55 pm

MRHP wrote:Lets get this rollin with some pics. I got a pistol carry case to protect my tubes. Works great!
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Now that's cool!!!
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by Snoop65 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:57 pm

Those Siemens Cca 6922 on the way to you are "A" frames. :D
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by Snoop65 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:01 pm

My Sunfire Classic pre tube update, three Amperex 6922 PQ's in the linestage, two Telefunken smooth plate 12ax7's and one Amperex Bugle Boy 6DJ8 in the moving magnet section of the phonostage and 3 Sovtek 6922's in the moving coil section(just to have something in the sockets)
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by MRHP » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:12 pm

Snoop65 wrote:Those Siemens Cca 6922 on the way to you are "A" frames. :D
=P~ =P~ =P~ =P~ =P~
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by MRHP » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:19 pm

I have some late 1950's Amperex 6922 gold pin PQ pinched waist D getter located. If I decide to buy might have to trade my car in on them.
TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0001
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Cherry/260wpc Mono Blocks
Lightstar Reference
Sunfire Series II 625x2
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OPPO-103
Lucas Labs CF-14
Sunfire Tube pre
DENON DP-62L TT
DUAL CS 5000 TT
DQ-20's
Tesla CF-15 speakers
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65

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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by Snoop65 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:14 pm

MRHP wrote:I have some late 1950's Amperex 6922 gold pin PQ pinched waist D getter located. If I decide to buy might have to trade my car in on them.
PINCHED WAIST?!?!?!? If you get those I will be so jealous! I might have to move you to the hate list!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by MRHP » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:42 pm

YES!!! Its Brent Jessee Recording, single tubes are cough, cough, $300. A matched set is $550 and he only has 1 matched set. I just went back and looked at them, they are 1957 Herleen Holland. Probably a good investment.
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DQ-20's
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by Snoop65 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:59 pm

I know the site but I have never bought from him. Has a good reputation though.
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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by MRHP » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:32 am

Well here lately I have been running Siemens E188CC in V2 and V3 and a Siemens E88CC in V1. This is the most holographic setup I can come up with using the tubes in my collection. Along with this I run a set of Siemens CCa in the CDP and with this setup its unbelievably warm for using all Siemens tubes. If the recording is a little harsh I will go with a Mullard E188CC or USN-CEP 7308 in the V1 slot.
TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0002
Cherry/260wpc Mono Blocks
Lightstar Reference
Sunfire Series II 625x2
Carver 490t
OPPO-103
Lucas Labs CF-14
Sunfire Tube pre
DENON DP-62L TT
DUAL CS 5000 TT
DQ-20's
Tesla CF-15 speakers
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65

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Re: WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD (SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE)

Post by Snoop65 » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:46 pm

Good job Eric!!!! =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
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