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Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by wrf » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:30 am

I am soon to be the proud new owner of a Sunfire Classic Tube pre and have been reading old posts here. Several mention schematics but my search for the actual PDF's hasn't turned up anything. Can somebody provide a clue as to where I should look or who I should ask. I don't really need them right now, but it would provide peace of mind (and educational) to have them around.

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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by hewlew1 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:11 am

Right at this moment there are no Sunfire Schematics available to the general public that I am aware of. For some reason they, Sunfire have chosen not release this material.
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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by mbskeam » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:34 pm

we can fix that on the pre amp.....
will try and scan tomorrow
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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by BrianT » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:23 pm

wrf wrote:I am soon to be the proud new owner of a Sunfire Classic Tube pre and have been reading old posts here. Several mention schematics but my search for the actual PDF's hasn't turned up anything. Can somebody provide a clue as to where I should look or who I should ask. I don't really need them right now, but it would provide peace of mind (and educational) to have them around.

Thanks
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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by hewlew1 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:33 pm

So what other Sunfire schematics have people got a hold of and are willing to share ? I would really like to acquire one for a 300x2 as well as a subwoofer MK2.
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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by mbskeam » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:33 pm

hey if I had anything more, they would be out there for the masses, the no schematics is crap....
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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by wrf » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:10 pm

PM sent to Brian T. THANK YOU!

General question - why on earth is Sunfire so tight fisted with the schematics? Are they trying to protect trade secrets? A thriving repair business?

In my opinion, one of the great things about the old Carver equipment is that service info is freely available. The curious can learn how the equipment works, the motivated can fix their own equipment and the obsessive can modify it. I've seen photos of the inside of Sunfire equipment and it's appears to be very well laid out - high quality boards, silk screening and good accessibility. Hopefully someone will either come to their senses and release the info or perhaps even leak it.

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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by TNRabbit » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:47 pm

Carver is defunct; Sunfire is still a viable business, so there's money to be made.
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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by wrf » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:41 pm

Schematics received from both Dr W. and BrianT. Many thanks to both. I received my Sunfire Tube Pre today and will be checking it out over the next few days.

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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by Snoop65 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:17 pm

Welcome to the Sunfire Classic Vacuum tube preamp club and enjoy!!!!! =D> =D> =D> :D
CARVER LIGHTSTAR REFERENCE+SUNFIRE CLASSIC TUBE PREAMPLIFIER+JBL XPL200+MUSIC HALL MMF-9.1+GRADO REFERENCE MASTER 1+Cayin CDT-17a =WOW!!!!!!

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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by angelod307 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:15 am

I will say that one day maybe. For now, tom at vintage hifi and bill in washington are the ones that can get sunfire fixed. I have seen the light.
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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by Magnaryder » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:11 pm

Snoop65 wrote:Welcome to the Sunfire Classic Vacuum tube preamp club and enjoy!!!!! =D> =D> =D> :D
Oh, yeah!!! Let the tube rolling begin!

ray
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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by Snoop65 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:00 am

Magnaryder wrote:
Snoop65 wrote:Welcome to the Sunfire Classic Vacuum tube preamp club and enjoy!!!!! =D> =D> =D> :D
Oh, yeah!!! Let the tube rolling begin!

ray
YESSSSSSS!!!!!! :D
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Re: Sunfire Classic Tube Preamp Schematics

Post by Magnaryder » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:00 pm

Snoop65 wrote:
Magnaryder wrote:
Snoop65 wrote:Welcome to the Sunfire Classic Vacuum tube preamp club and enjoy!!!!! =D> =D> =D> :D
Oh, yeah!!! Let the tube rolling begin!

ray
YESSSSSSS!!!!!! :D
And I'll bet you thought the pre was expensive :shock: .....Bwaaahahahahaha...Welcome to the dark-side my friend

wait 'til you price tubes

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