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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:36 am

Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

I snagged a non remote capable Sunfire Tube pre just for the phono board. Placed the board in my remote capable tube pre and I get nothing. put it back in the non remote unit and it works great. The only difference between the two are different revisions of the main board. Any thoughts on this one? :-k :-k :-k :-k
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:02 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

Live without the remote and give me the one with the remote! :lol:
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:03 pm

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That is where it is headed.
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:08 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

After you get your dilema sorted... I am interested in the other. DIBS!!!
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:09 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

It now makes me leary to try to find a phono board for mine. May have to consider selling and just buying another unit. I REALLY don't want that option!!! ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:16 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

Did you take any pics? Forget to hook a lead up?
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:34 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

Wasn't this sold aftermarket as an add-on. It doesn't make much sense that it doesn't work if your unit has the connectors for it.
It should sound like it isn't there!
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:41 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

Phono boards were available as an option. Have no clue why it won't work.
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:51 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

Beermers,
:rolleyes:

Take a look at the power supply board on the pre that the phono works in.

As you look at the PS board, from the right side of the preamp, at the back edge of the board you should see a jumper over two pins.

Look at your remote pre in the same place. You will probably see two pins with no jumper.

Pull the jumper, along with the phonoboard and the shorter cable and put them all into your remote pre.

That is what I did and it all worked perfectly.

What is confusing is that the tubes light up (filament supply) even without the jumper that brings high voltage to the phonoboard. So, one would think everything is fine, when in fact the tubes have no high voltage supply.

Let us know if that works.

Bruce :D
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:13 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

Dr. W wrote:Beermers,
:rolleyes:

Take a look at the power supply board on the pre that the phono works in.

As you look at the PS board, from the right side of the preamp, at the back edge of the board you should see a jumper over two pins.

Look at your remote pre in the same place. You will probably see two pins with no jumper.

Pull the jumper, along with the phonoboard and the shorter cable and put them all into your remote pre.

That is what I did and it all worked perfectly.

What is confusing is that the tubes light up (filament supply) even without the jumper that brings high voltage to the phonoboard. So, one would think everything is fine, when in fact the tubes have no high voltage supply.

Let us know if that works.

Bruce :D


I will try it tonight. Thanks for the tip. =D>
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:54 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

You are welcome. O:)

I hope it works for you. [-o<

But I can't imagine it won't. :D

I am sure the original user installed phono kit came with instructions. =D>

Doing it the way you and I did, we have to figure it out on our own. ](*,)
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:27 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

Dr. W to the rescue.It worked!!!!! =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> Tom, you just lost the remote... Thanks gang, for all the input.
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:35 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

nooshinjohn wrote:After you get your dilema sorted... I am interested in the other. DIBS!!!


I didn't know you were looking for more. Thuffman snagged this one when I made the deal. I will keep my eyes open for more.
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:35 pm

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beemers417 wrote:It worked!!!!! =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> Tom, you just lost the remote... Thanks gang.



I still have dibs on the leftovers... yes?
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Post Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:40 pm

Re: Sunfire Tube pre dilemma

You might have to arm wrestle Tom for it.
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