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TFM/15 Help

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Charlie1

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Post Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:22 pm

TFM/15 Help

Hello All,
My TFM15CB is acting up. When I turn on I hear a relay click and I'm getting no meter lights or sound, any thoughts or is this like the question, how long is a piece of string?
Thanks
Steve
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RichP714

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Post Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:34 pm

Re: TFM/15 Help

Charlie1 wrote:Hello All,
My TFM15CB is acting up. When I turn on I hear a relay click and I'm getting no meter lights or sound, any thoughts or is this like the question, how long is a piece of string?
Thanks
Steve
Hi there and welcome to the forum!
The good news is if you hear a clicking relay, the amp is passing its power on self test for power supply voltages.

The bad news is I don't have a service manual to help you continue.

Have you tried twiddling the input level knobs?
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Charlie1

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Post Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:31 pm

Re: TFM/15 Help

Thanks for the reply and welcome Rich. I love my Carver, also have the HR-752 of which I'm the original owner. I've tried everything I know to do, not sure where to start checking or testing.
Steve
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Post Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:25 am

Re: TFM/15 Help

Welcome Charlie1. Good luck and maybe someone can send Rich a copy of the schematics.
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RichP714

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Post Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:53 am

Re: TFM/15 Help

Charlie1 wrote:Thanks for the reply and welcome Rich. I love my Carver, also have the HR-752 of which I'm the original owner. I've tried everything I know to do, not sure where to start checking or testing.
Steve
I sure wish I had a schematic, but I don't. I don't remember if your amp has a magnetic field coil and triac controlled power supply or not (a couple of the lower numbered TFM series were 'regular' transformers).

Messing with a triac controlled unit is dicey for those not familiar; they often destroy the coil and amp and sometimes get injured.

If there IS a triac in there, whatever you do, do not short across it in an attempt to 'jump start' the power supply.

If you're getting that relay click, odds are the power supply is working anyway. Without the schemo, it's hard to say why the meter lamps aren't coming on, let alone why no signal is passing.

Anybody have a schemo for this unit?
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OBI56

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Post Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:12 am

Re: TFM/15 Help

TFM75 has the service manual in his archives Rich.
Why let facts or common sense get in the way of your opinions.
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Charlie1

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Post Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:35 am

Re: TFM/15 Help

Hi,
Is ther a way to post a picture?
Thanks
Steve
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Charlie1 wrote:Hi,
Is ther a way to post a picture?
Thanks
Steve


When you post a new message or edit an existing one, below the text box you will find a section with a blue line header for attachments. Browse for your picture then add it to the file list. Once that is done you simply place your cursor where you want the picture and press Place Inline and you are done! Please keep your pictures under 1000 pixels wide otherwise it screws up the entire thread by forcing people to scroll side to side to read everything.
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RichP714

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Post Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:11 pm

Re: TFM/15 Help

OBI56 wrote:TFM75 has the service manual in his archives Rich.
Thanks Obi, I'll ask him about it
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RichP714

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Post Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:29 pm

Re: TFM/15 Help

I found one at servicemanuals.net

It's a 'regular' non traic controlled transformer, so any technician can work on it without having to be versed in Carver gear. It's not a rail switcher either, so should be much simpler to fix.

There ARE internal fuses according to the schemo.....give them a look first Three, on the left front side, especially fuse F003, the 1 amp one
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Charlie1

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Post Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:36 pm

Re: TFM/15 Help

Hi Rich,
Fuses were first thing I looked at. They appear fine and actually on the top side, things are quite clean, I see no visual evidence of overheating at all. Here is a photo, I hope
Steve
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RichP714

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Post Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:39 pm

Re: TFM/15 Help

What is the unit's history? was it working and then quit, etc.....

How comfortable are you messing around with it and/or what type of test equipment do you have?
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Charlie1

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Post Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:05 pm

Re: TFM/15 Help

Well she's up and running. Replaced bulbs and noticed a wire that had come loose but yet looked in place.
Thank you all for your help and patience.
Steve
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Post Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:51 pm

Re: TFM/15 Help

Charlie1 wrote:Well she's up and running. Replaced bulbs and noticed a wire that had come loose but yet looked in place.
Thank you all for your help and patience.
Steve
Great news!
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Post Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:56 pm

Re: TFM/15 Help

Welcome Charlie1! Glad you found your problem, what wire came loose? I'm assuming it was from the fuse board? Good job! and welcome again!
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