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mr3putt

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Post Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:33 pm

Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

Spent the afternoon tearing down the old system and hooking up the new.
All of the audio inputs seem to work but I can't get the On Screen Display up to program all of the options.

For various reasons I decided not to run my Video Sources (FIOS and DVD) through the Ultimate. I was attempting to feed the OSD from the UR to my Samsung HDTV by connecting from the Main Video Out to an AUX IN on the TV. No Joy.The documentation stinks on the Samsung so I can't be sure if that connection is composite or not. The TV seems to sense a signal but won't display bupkus

Is it possible to program without the OSD?
Do I have to route my video sources through the Ultimate to enable the OSD?

Inquiring minds want to know

Thanks
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BillD

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Post Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:16 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

The answer to the last question is no. You have to select on the Ultimate (if it's like the TGP-III) whether your output is S-video or composite (and whether it is on Video 1 or Video 2). Then attach the cable to your TV from the appropriate video connection on the Sunfire using the appropriate type of connection. Then, put your TV on that input and press Menu on the remote. You can do it by looking at the display on the Sunfire, but the menus are much abbreviated and confusing.
It should sound like it isn't there!
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weitrhino

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Post Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:55 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

I am also relatively new to the UR and have not set it up for HT use, but I get the OSD directly from the main out using a composite input to the TV. If the port on your Samsung is yellow, then it should be composite video. Page 30 of the manual states:

The On Screen Display (OSD) is present at the composite video or S-video MAIN outputs. It is also present at the output labeled VID2/MON2, but only if it is set to MON2. Make sure that your TV monitor's video input is connected correctly to one of these outputs.

OSD is NOT available on the component video. Make sure you connected your composite cable to the output of the UR.
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mr3putt

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Post Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:40 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

Thanks to all
As usual this forum is fantastic

I will give it a shot tomorrow
Sunfire Ultimate Reciever & Sunfire 300x2
Carver HR 895-TFM 15
Carver 490t CD
Carver 1770 Tape
Sunfire CRM-2's - 1 Pair
JBL-L100's
NHT Satellites-2 Pairs
Klipsch Sub
Technics SL-QD33 Turntable
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Jag_97470

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Post Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:59 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

The other post are correct, but in my research on LCD's I found the Samsung did not have an S-Video input?? I use from my TGP-III the S-Video main out to my S-Video in on the TV (not Samsung). It does sound like you will have to use Composite > and make sure you select composite in the Samsung settings. Good luck
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mr3putt

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Post Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:32 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

Status update
Thanks to the sage advice recieved from the board I successfully enabled the OSD
Programmed the settings as required and fired this puppy up

The results.......
Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am in awe of the fidelity and limitless power of this beauty.

Within a half hour of launching this missle the cops were at the door with a noise
complaint \:D/
This in a house buttoned down for winter on 2 acres.
Sunfire......There truly is no substitute =D>
Sunfire Ultimate Reciever & Sunfire 300x2
Carver HR 895-TFM 15
Carver 490t CD
Carver 1770 Tape
Sunfire CRM-2's - 1 Pair
JBL-L100's
NHT Satellites-2 Pairs
Klipsch Sub
Technics SL-QD33 Turntable
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Post Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:59 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

Congrats!

It's addicting, ain't it?!?
TNRabbit
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Jag_97470

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Post Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:18 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

mr3putt wrote:Status update
Thanks to the sage advice recieved from the board I successfully enabled the OSD
Programmed the settings as required and fired this puppy up

The results.......
Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am in awe of the fidelity and limitless power of this beauty.

Within a half hour of launching this missle the cops were at the door with a noise
complaint \:D/
This in a house buttoned down for winter on 2 acres.
Sunfire......There truly is no substitute =D>


Great! Congratulations! The cops came? That is fricken Awesome!!! \:D/ \:D/ =D>
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TNRabbit

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Post Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:33 am

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

My record is on a corner lot I had a guy come from seven houses down to tell me his kids couldn't sleep (9 pm on a Saturday night).....
TNRabbit
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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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mr3putt

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Post Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:11 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

TNRabbit wrote:Congrats!

It's addicting, ain't it?!?


Worse than Crack :D
My wife is scared stiff just watching me play with this toy
She knows the obsession is just beginning

Great cure for cabin fever though \:D/

Thanks again for all who aided my installation
Sunfire Ultimate Reciever & Sunfire 300x2
Carver HR 895-TFM 15
Carver 490t CD
Carver 1770 Tape
Sunfire CRM-2's - 1 Pair
JBL-L100's
NHT Satellites-2 Pairs
Klipsch Sub
Technics SL-QD33 Turntable
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mr3putt

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Post Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:14 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

TNRabbit wrote:My record is on a corner lot I had a guy come from seven houses down to tell me his kids couldn't sleep (9 pm on a Saturday night).....


Did you suggest some fabulous Bose Noise Reduction Headphones ? :lol:

Next time the police show up I will invite them in for a beer and a listen.
No one who has heard this system would convict me \:D/
Sunfire Ultimate Reciever & Sunfire 300x2
Carver HR 895-TFM 15
Carver 490t CD
Carver 1770 Tape
Sunfire CRM-2's - 1 Pair
JBL-L100's
NHT Satellites-2 Pairs
Klipsch Sub
Technics SL-QD33 Turntable
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Jag_97470

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Post Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:09 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

mr3putt wrote:Next time the police show up I will invite them in for a beer and a listen.
No one who has heard this system would convict me \:D/


It's not convict me, it's evict me!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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mr3putt

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Post Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:52 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

Some observations of my new Sunfire Ultimate

I have noticed a significant difference between Source Direct Mode and Party Mode
In Party Mode the Input Gain strength seems dramatically weaker resulting in a slightly muffled
effect lacking dynamic range. This was true with all sources (Tape-Both Cd Players-TT)
I have mitigated this significantly by changing the output from my 490T to the variable output connections and juicing up the gain. That works like a charm. There appears to be no similar option within the Pre Amp stage of the UR. You can only reduce, not increase, line input signal from any source in any Mode. I realize that Source Direct bypasses all of the digital proccessing but would that overhead itself be the cause of reduced input signal strength?
Just curious.

I am probably the only fool around who uses this beast primarily in Party Mode in lieu of Source Direct 2 channel. This due to room size and acoustics as well as a masochistic desire to watch the pictures and plants dance along with me as I revel in the sonic power \:D/

On another note: Does anyone lnow the device code to enter into the remote to control the 490T? Cycled through the range but the CD never turned on.
Thanks to all
3putt
Sunfire Ultimate Reciever & Sunfire 300x2
Carver HR 895-TFM 15
Carver 490t CD
Carver 1770 Tape
Sunfire CRM-2's - 1 Pair
JBL-L100's
NHT Satellites-2 Pairs
Klipsch Sub
Technics SL-QD33 Turntable
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Jag_97470

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Post Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:51 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

What speakers are you running in party mode? It was my understanding that party mode played "all" speakers including the center and surrounds at the same time. don't know about your remote, but on my TGP-III there was no code found for our older Sony VHS player, but there is a series of buttons pushed aiming the remote to "manually" program any button you desire to run functions. Maybe look in the manual programming the remote manually?
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BillD

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Post Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:30 pm

Re: Need Help with my new Ultimate Reciever

Well, you'd think that splitting the signal φ times would have some effect on gain (like φ times -3dB)
It should sound like it isn't there!
There is a difference between hearing and listening...
Making life enjoyable through expensive electronics.
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Sunfire:Theater Grand III processor, Ultimate Receiver, Cinema Grand Signature 400 ~ seven, True Subwoofer Mk. II, D-10 Subwoofer
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