treitz3 wrote:Scarabeo wrote::-k If you stuck a Tube amp in front of me and a SS one - I could tell you the Tube over SS FAST....My Sunfire stuff sounds raspy to my Tube amp and you know how great the Sunfire sounds / Tube = smooth....
I don't even half to think twice! Not for a second or worry who I may offend or what ever - you would half to run a lot of tricks to fool me Tube vs SS, A lot of tricks and I am going off a 75 watt 700 Dollar cheapo Tube amp to compair!
Bob had a couple of tricks up his sleeve as well when he did the challenge too. It's not like what he did there came out into production units.
That said, he won the challenge. Hehe, it would be interesting if he would be up to a non-commercial, shits for giggles, just for the hell of it challenge like that again....at Carverfest'11.
Hmmmmm........I'll accept.
No, I don't read it like that. Bob does not seem to be a "shits for giggles" type of guy.
Bob knows all about the audio we try to read about and understand. That article proves it.
If Bob and I have anything in common, it might be preparation.
The rules were clearly laid out, and Bob used those.
Clearly, the opposition ( they clearly claimed that ) were like "TOM" and saw it as a way to prove for their high end mag that Bob could not deliver.
Bob, of course, just packed his bags and went to the games. He knew his stuff, and was confident all he needed was a fair opportunity. The experts there gave him that of course.
Like Bob, I once did that. I lived outside Charlotte like you do Tom, except as a cop, I did not live in your rich neighborhood. I bought my house for 27k - what did you pay ? Make no mistake, you provide well for yours, and I am in awe and support of guys like you. Call on me anytime, many of your neighbors have.- Guys like you make life for guys like me possible. Still, sometimes you miss the point, and in America, we are all the same guys.
I took up jogging at 35 and declared I was going to to run the Boston Marathon after years of alcohol abuse and no history of anything athletic in my past. Back then, you had to run a Marathon under 2:50 for a ticket to Boston, not like now when they let anyone in. Back then, people claimed to know someone who had been to Boston, but it was mostly myth. You can imagine how much crap I got from everyone once I drunkenly told them my goal.
Bob did the same with out alcohol. He just stepped up one day and challenged the best in the world. He claimed he could make an amp sound like whatever you choose. They got to choose the amp and Bob got no heads up on the choice.
Looking back, that was a step beyond reality, but that step actually brought high end audio to the masses. Sure, it ain't like Reagan bringing down the wall. but still incredible!!
I own Bob Carver equipment.
To me, it sounds incredible. Other high end or low end things may sound good or different, but make no mistake, Bob Carver rocks my home. Visit me and experience how good music can be. Different is not always better - Bob proved that, and then went on his merry way to make music his way. Either you like that or you do not. If you have a million dollars, Bob can make music sound however you choose.
In there somewhere is the answer for the rest of us -
Amps sound different, and different in different environments.
I personally, have software that can do a tube sound nearly as well as a tube.
Hard to believe, harder to swallow,
but true today and improving daily.
That is what Bob did, but he was "the" computer. Not all us are Bob, and actually maybe none us are.
Bob took the challenge, spent great effort training for it - and won. If he had not won, Bob the man would still be the same great guy as he gave his best. The fact that he won is all we discuss, but if he had come up a little short as it was measured so tightly, no change.
](./images/smilies/eusa_wall.gif "Brick wall")
The fact that these critics became fans of Bob just like you and me says it all.
So Tom, if Bob don't take on yur challenge, I will.
I could never be a BOB CARVER, but I did go on to Boston and finish in 2:44 which was quite an accomplishment for a fat old drunk guy.
Not everyone is a Bob carver or a OO, but most here are.
We all just have achieved in different ways.
We all disagree with this--
Bob had a couple of tricks up his sleeveBob did not cheat - had no need for it.
Real guys just be themselves and let the chips fall.
Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:13 am 
If you stuck a Tube amp in front of me and a SS one - I could tell you the Tube over SS FAST....My Sunfire stuff sounds raspy to my Tube amp and you know how great the Sunfire sounds / Tube = smooth....
shame on you! 