Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

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Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by stereo_buff » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:48 pm

It is well documented that the Carver M-1.5t sound was patterned after that of the Mark Levinson ML-2 and that the M-1.0t was patterned after a Conrad-Johnson Premier Four. What about the M-500t? What was the 'reference' amplifier that its sound was supposed to emulate? Interestingly, the M-500t manual simply states that "Your M-500t uses the T-mod technology originally developed for the Carver M-1.5t power amplifier." Does anyone know for sure? Thanks.

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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by skip » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:19 pm

Nope. I just know it sounds different than any other Carver amp I've heard.
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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by treitz3 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:11 pm

The M-500t was not made to emulate any amp.
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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by jjptkd » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:20 pm

Rita told me that the "T" mod was an upgrade offered to the original "M" series amplifiers and were later put out as a second offering of basically the same amplifier. The original M-1.0 or M-1.5 could be sent back to the factory to be re-wired with monster cable and a couple resistor changes, which came that way in the later "T" models or M-1.0t & M-1.5t respectively. It had nothing to do with the transfer fuction calibration.
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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by kingman » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:28 pm

I thought the Monster wire myth had already been silenced???
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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by jjptkd » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:45 pm

kingman wrote:I thought the Monster wire myth had already been silenced???
You have to remember that I'm fairly new here, please enlighten me! :D
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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by Mr. M-500t » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:07 pm

jjptkd wrote:
kingman wrote:I thought the Monster wire myth had already been silenced???
You have to remember that I'm fairly new here, please enlighten me! :D
Nothing more than a marketing ploy to sell more amps. Lift the hood on any of them that say "Internally Wired With Monster Cable" and tell me if you see any difference from regular #14 gauge wire.

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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by jjptkd » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:19 pm

Well sure, but they put the stickers on right? I was referring to the "T" after the M-1.0 for example. That's what the "T" mod represents is the "UPGRADE" wheither it was actually done or not is really not the point I was trying to make. The M-1.0 was still transfer function calibrated, the "T" was the whole Monster Cable and resistor change. Atleast that's what I gathered through my conversation with Rita.
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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by kingman » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:23 pm

Monster cable...it's like the unicorn...it simply didn't exist...transistor maybe, cable no.
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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by Mr. M-500t » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:25 pm

Wrong. The T stands for Transfer Function Modified or Calibrated.
The Monster thingy was totally different. I think it was done after Bob left !

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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by BillD » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:45 pm

IIRC, there was some 14 ga. Monster Cable used to go from the amplifier board to the binding posts. That's it.
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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by kingman » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:29 am

Thanks Bill for setting me straight! =D>
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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by TNRabbit » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:39 am

BillD wrote:IIRC, there was some 14 ga. Monster Cable used to go from the amplifier board to the binding posts. That's it.
And that was only on a very few models.
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Re: Carver M-500t sound - What was it cloned from?

Post by stereo_buff » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:33 am

TNRabbit wrote:
BillD wrote:IIRC, there was some 14 ga. Monster Cable used to go from the amplifier board to the binding posts. That's it.
And that was only on a very few models.
My M-1.5t has the 'Monster Cable improvement' (as evidenced by the decal on the rear panel) and it is just like Bill said - a short piece of 14 AWG cable going from the amplifier board to the binding post. It's just marketing...

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