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Post Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:01 pm

The near feild listening thread.....

treitz3 wrote:..........................Yeah, let me tell you guys something.....that rig has surprised plenty of folks. You wouldn't think [at least we didn't] that with the sweet spot being only 4 feet away that the speakers would disappear and them presenting a sound stage at least 15 feet wide. One of the last things I said before we put it together was....."Well, nobody would want to sit in the sweet spot but it would be nice for background music or something".....as soon as we set the rig up? We didn't leave the sweet spot for almost 3 hours. Damn, that rig has it goin' on.....................................


I can't tell you how many times I have been told my EXTREMELY near field system couldn't possibly sound good, or image properly. But I just keep \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

Bruce


Well, Bruce, I can tell you this. I have experimented more with near field listening and it definitely has it's advantages and it's disadvantages. That rig we set up at Carverfest was a definite joy to listen too. Arguably the most "fun" we had in a rig last year at Carverfest.

Has anybody or does anybody else enjoy near field listening on this forum?
In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to a good analogue reproduction.

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Post Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:16 pm

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I do it all the time Tom. It's hard on the legs though. Sitting Indian style sucks for us older farts ! :-({|= :-({|= :-({|=
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Post Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:23 pm

Re: The near feild listening thread.....

You know, you could always move the chair forward. That said, lowering your position in relation to the normal listening position also has some advantages. Improved mid bass punch, higher sound stage, more weight to the instruments and sometimes a slightly more enveloping overall feel to the music. This also has its attributes and its deficiencies. To me, it sometimes puts me more into the music or the performance....but I don't cross my legs.
In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to a good analogue reproduction.

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Post Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:29 pm

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Calf cramps suck !
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Post Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:52 pm

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I listen to my arrays nearfield.
They are one of the best imaging/stage presenting speakers I have ever heard,
they disappear and add height to the presentation. Excellent highs with the row of ribbons.
The designer made them to compete with higher end arrays and they do well,
they are the best I've heard with holography on.
By nearfield with arrays its about 7-8' and they are about 8' apart.

The cherry ones are the mains, the taller beige ones are the surrounds....

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Post Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:58 pm

Your SPL must be incredible!

How far are you from the mains [normally] when listening in near field, if you don't mind me asking?
In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to a good analogue reproduction.

Robert R. - "Did you see my North Korea analogy? I should have named it Carversite.kim"
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Post Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:10 pm

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He's just showing off Tom. I'd say he needs at least a 4' bar stool about 12' away on center for near field pleasure with those babies ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:45 pm

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Mr. M-500t wrote:He's just showing off Tom. I'd say he needs at least a 4' bar stool about 12' away on center for near field pleasure with those babies ! :lol: :lol: :lol:


:D ........actually the cool thing about arrays are that they radiate from the box cylindrical so that no matter what height
your sitting at your at the correct ear level for the speaker.
They are a large box so people just assume because of size and number of drivers they are loud.
They can play loud, but they are very detailed and they perform best at normal listening levels.
When set up properly they dissapear and create an outstanding experience.

They are set up in a newly built room with no treatments at all yet.....
They are about 8' apart.......and my ears are about 7'+ from each box.
They are toed in about 1"
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Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:55 am

Re: The near feild listening thread.....

My speakers about 6 foot from my head.
It ain't as fancy as PDR of course, but it sounds good up close.
The CRS-3 are forward firing, made for wall mounting and are kinda like nice earphones this close.
I have them aimed at my head as I don't care about entertaining more than me with them.
What sounds loud in my chair is surprisingly low down in the yard.
They really just seem to disappear, and are very pleasant to listen to this close.

Here are some photos to give some perspective.

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Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:22 pm

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No comments does not surprise me.

My stuff is not yet purty enough for a spread in HiFi Mag.
Actually, the view blows away any lonely sealed room.

It is outdoors, and that must seem enough out of the main stream to bring out self important chuckles.

Still I have put in a lot of thought, got expert advice from members here, spent a couple hundred dollars and now have a Carver system.

Am I the only one here young enough to try new things?
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Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:06 pm

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I would give anything to be able to have a area like that.
Where I am its -6C and still 3 ft of snow on the ground.
I live rural as well, but we dont a climate that allows us to set
up gear outside.....but I would like to.

I dont judge the way people set their gear up,
if they enjoy it, thats all that counts.
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Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:18 pm

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What software are you using for a player? It is very readable almost full screen.
Steve
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Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:44 pm

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stevek wrote:
OconeeOrange wrote:
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What software are you using for a player? It is very readable almost full screen.
Steve


There are many good players out there now.
Some swear and die by this or that one.

I have most of them, and I try all the new ones.
On most days I still prefer WinAmp for the same reasons I like FireFox over IE or Chrome,etc.
I don't like the library/playlist thing most use as I have over 20K songs. I have mine in folders (Rock, Jazz, Beach, etc) With WinAmp, I just open a folder and choose a song, an album, an artist, or genre and it loads in seconds. When I close it, all history is gone.

When set up right (go to options and turn stuff off) it gives excellent 24 bit sound, and can be set up to your chosen needs. It can pull up lyrics and etc. I like that and they load even before the first song note. Others do that too. Winamp can be enlarged to fit your screen or my TV. Purest tout this or that one, and most are free downloads, but set up right, WinAmp does that and more. It also supports izotope. http://www.izotope.com/

Like most, it is free.

You can pay for some and read glowing reviews from experts about them, but use the trial before you pay.
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Post Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:36 am

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Great view. Love the control center.
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Post Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:23 am

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OO, did you run your speaker cables through plastic conduit?
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