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Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by gsb001 » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:47 pm

Hi Everyone,
I’m looking for some help please. Anyone gone thur this in the past? How did it work out? I need some ideas.

I lost two Carver pieces in a garage fire, M500T amp and C1 pre-amp, 12 months ago.
Garage is rebuilt and most items have been replaced. One area I’m still having trouble with is the Carver items.

My “deluxe” Allstate policy pays for replacement.

I submitted $650 for the M500T (a bit high on the amp price, because I recently had my amp repaired- I figured $400 for used amp on Ebay and $250 for repair/update) and $350 for the C1 as replacement cost.

Allstate rejected my claim, explaining because there are no direct replacements for these items, IE – Carver is out of business, ETC. They offered $100 for each item.

I explained used models were still available thru Ebay and I would be happy to buy there, just as I had with the originals. They replied Ebay was not an acceptable source for pricing replacement items.

My next approach is to find current brand and model with specs equal to the Carver pieces.

So – I’m looking for suggestions from the group on what current brands and models that would be considered replacements.

Thanks
SB

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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by OconeeOrange » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:02 pm

Just don't accept a settlement.

Right now just ignore the low levels you are dealing with unless you need the $$.
Stay cool, be patience, and keep asking for a fair settlement.

In time they will offer more.
They do this everyday for a living. They are better at it than you. You cannot deal with the guys talking to you now.

It is sad, but true. Insurance companies are all assholes.

Just don't settle for less than you are due.

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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by Don » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:33 pm

Audiogon Blue Book cut and paste:

BlueBook > C > Carver > M-500t


Carver M-500t : Used Prices

New $629.00

$500.00 High

$420.00 Last

$280.00 Low
Used $380.00
Oct 00 last 60 of 78 recorded sales Jan 07

Carver M-500t released 1981, 250w x 2, with meters

Carver C-1 : Used Prices

New $550.00

$250.00 High

$150.00 Last

$90.00 Low

Used $170.00
Jun 00 last 60 of 69 recorded sales Aug 08

Carver C-1 released 1981, with mc, 7 lbs
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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by jjptkd » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:56 pm

Adcom sells a new 2 channel amplifier @ 200 watts for $1200, the 555se. I'm sure there's a host of other current model "equivalents" over the $1k mark if they insist on a "new" replacement. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by engtaz » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:19 am

See if Tom at Vintagehifi in Pittsburgh is a acceptable business for the insurance company.
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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by TNRabbit » Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:06 am

OconeeOrange wrote:Just don't accept a settlement.

Right now just ignore the low levels you are dealing with unless you need the $$.
Stay cool, be patience, and keep asking for a fair settlement.

In time they will offer more.
They do this everyday for a living. They are better at it than you. You cannot deal with the guys talking to you now.

It is sad, but true. Insurance companies are all assholes.

Just don't settle for less than you are due.
Ditto.

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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by gsb001 » Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:25 am

Tks for the replies.

My total claim is over $110K. About $60K for the structure and about $50K in contents.

At the very beginning, I hired my own Insurance Adjuster. It's been hard for me to "teach" him about the value of vintage Carver / JBL audio componets.

Adcom is a good ides, I forgot about that line. I'll check them out.
Any other brand suggestions?
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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by Mr. M-500t » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:22 pm

I would suggest you get a written price quote from Vintage Hi-Fi.

I lost $17,000 in audio equipment, Mostly Carver, back in 88 to an house fire. I never replaced any of it. Put it all into the new house because I had to pay a high priced attorney from Detroit $15,000 to prove Citizen Insurance Co. Wrong. :x :x :x :x

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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by beemers417 » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:31 pm

engtaz wrote:See if Tom at Vintagehifi in Pittsburgh is a acceptable business for the insurance company.

I will talk to them.
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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by kingman » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:49 am

beemers417 wrote:
engtaz wrote:See if Tom at Vintagehifi in Pittsburgh is a acceptable business for the insurance company.

I will talk to them.
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Post by treitz3 » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:27 am

Let me know how this works out and whether or not they accept Tom's store as replacement value. This is very important to me, so please do not forget.
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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by Mr. M-500t » Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:30 pm

I think it's important info for all of us in a tragic event such as this ! [-o<

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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by gsb001 » Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:21 pm

Picture of "melted" M500-T & C1.
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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by engtaz » Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:30 pm

Thats nasty. So sorry for your troubles.
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Re: Insurance Replacement Help M500T & C1

Post by gsb001 » Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:42 pm

One more.
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