Carver Amps...which one to buy???

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Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by jck » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:35 pm

I bought Martin Logan SL3s ($925 mint with oaks rails) *and* the ONLY reason I passed on plats is footprint and yes, I am regretting it as I have always wanted to have a set...hum... and am ready for a Carver (or Sunfire) amp, two channel stereo only. Any suggestions. So many classic and current options. TFM-55, TFM 4.0, M 1.5t, Sunfire Series II 19", etc. As always, thanks in advance for your suggestions!

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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by TNRabbit » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:40 pm

M/L's need heavy juice, so I'd recommend Silver 7 or 9t amps, or Sunfire gear. Are they 4 ohm impedance?
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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by treitz3 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:53 pm

89Db at 4ohm? Yeah, you need a powerhouse. 7t, 9t, Lightstar or one of the Cherry amps [tube]. Of course, you could get one of the current offerings by Bob [also tube].....but you will have to watch E-bay for that. None of the one's you listed will do them justice besides the Sunfire you had mentioned.
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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by BillD » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:02 pm

You can bi-amp those SL-3s.
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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by Jag_97470 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:03 pm

I like the Sunfire 300X2, or Series II 325X2, or even better, Sunfire 600X2. Remember you could always pick up two 300X2's > oh yeah! I say "Sunfire". Also I would stay with the 19", just gives you more room for back connections. Good luck!

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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by kingman » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:18 pm

Sunfire.....the bigger the better! :D
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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by elgrau » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:47 pm

Concur with Jag: Two Sunfire 300x2's (in biwire mono mode): "The idea is to use one of its channels to drive the woofer from the voltage source, and use its other channel to drive the upper range of the speaker using the current source. This will double the power to the loudspeaker system and will relieve the upper range half from low frequency work, resulting in spectacular sound." This straight from the Bob Father's Sunfire User's manual. Since I have half this already, it probably will be my next "upgrade"....
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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by Toy Maker » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:48 pm

What's your budget???

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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by treitz3 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:17 pm

Good question.
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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by Jag_97470 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:25 pm

Toy Maker wrote:What's your budget???
Budget? :lol: There is no such word in the vocabulary of OCCD! :rolleyes:

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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by Dreamer » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:10 am

As an owner of a pair of Martin Logan Sequels (the original ones), and a pair of Silver 7ts (and also a pair of M-500t's, which are not really up to the task when run bridged), I can tell you that the Sequel series DOES play well with Carver and Sunfire gear, but you need to get the biggest amp you can afford. The SL3s (and ALL the Sequels) are terribly power-hungry, and their low impedance doesn't help matter when it comes to matching an amp to them.

If you have the budget, I'd say get a pair of Silver 7t's or 9t's. If you have deep pockets, I'd say get a pair of Sunfire stereo amps and bi-amp those SL3s--they sound GREAT when you do that with amps with a lot of juice, and the high-current Sunfires are just the ticket...

Cables are going to be KEY though, because of the impedance issue, and because the SL3s are tremendously revealing. You need "fast" speaker cables. The best cables I've EVER heard (and I owned some for a while) are Nordosts. You can get a pair of Blue Heavens used these days for under $200, and often you can get short pairs of Solar Winds for under $250.

Good luck--you've started down a dangerous and expensive path. Martin Logans will make you want to change out your ENTIRE rig eventually, because they will show you EVERY little defect and shortcoming in your system...

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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by TNRabbit » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:15 am

The OP posted this in June & hasn't been back since....
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Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by kingman » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:14 am

TNRabbit wrote:The OP posted this in June & hasn't been back since....
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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by bigerik » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:57 am

And isn't the answer to the original question supposed to be "All of them"? :)
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Re: Carver Amps...which one to buy???

Post by angelod307 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:50 am

when you are ready, i have four 300x2's. so, let me know as i will sell them for 750 each and that's delivered via fed ex.
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