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Post Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:40 pm

Want a taste of what a dedicated line can do for your rig?

No problem, try this.

1st, commit to devoting an hour of your time for the experiment. Listen to three songs that you use as a reference recording and make sure that you are intimately familiar with these recordings. Oh, sit your ass in the listening position for this experiment. Don't go walking around the room during this test or you may not ever know what the results could be. Now, go to your circuit breaker and cut the power to every single circuit in the house. Do this to every one but what your 2-channel rig is plugged into. If your rig is using two separate circuits, unplug every unnecessary component but that which will power 1 source [such as a CDP only], 1 pre or integrated and if you do not have an integrated, 1 amplifier [unless you are bi-amping, then power the 2nd amp up as well]. Basically, make your system the most simplistic 2 channel rig you can make it using the absolute least amount of plugs used as possible.

Now listen to the same three songs in the same listening position and using the same source.

Be advised that you might hear the differences better [if any] at nighttime when the grid demand is low. Feel free to post back on any observations that you may have found, even if you found none at all. Have fun during the experiment and don't forget to reset the clocks after you turn the power back on to everything else in the house. Wouldn't want to be late for work and piss your boss off. Whether that boss is considered your wife/significant other or your actual boss at work.

If you experience a significant change in the reproduction, you might want to consider a dedicated line for your rig. If you experience nothing, move on to other aspects of your rig and enjoy the music.
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Post Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:57 pm

Re: Want a taste of what a dedicated line can do for your ri

I have 2 x 20A dedicated circuits in my listening room- so no news to me! =D>
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Post Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:59 pm

Re: Want a taste of what a dedicated line can do for your ri

Chauss wrote:I have 2 x 20A dedicated circuits in my listening room- so no news to me! =D>


Sometimes you make me so jealous! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:05 pm

Dan, this thread is obviously not for you. If you try this and YOU hear a difference? You have issues. :lol:

I thought it might be a learning experience for those who haven't done what you have already. It will offer them a little taste of what you already have.
In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to a good analogue reproduction.

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Post Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:08 pm

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I was merely seconding your emotion! :D
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:13 am

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I have 2 sets of 30 amp breakers and 8ga wire with hubble outlets and 2 20 amp lines.
1 Lightstar per 30amp line.
All other stuff is run on the 20 amp lines
My listening room was planned running a pair of bridged TFM-55s hence the 30 amp lines

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Post Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:15 am

Re: Want a taste of what a dedicated line can do for your ri

Tom:

This is a great idea. I would try it but it doesn't matter since I rent right now and they wouldnt let me install dedicated circuits.

So I will bookmark it for a later date and maybe try it if I get bored sometime and am at home alone
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:22 am

Re: Want a taste of what a dedicated line can do for your ri

Chauss wrote:I have 2 x 20A dedicated circuits in my listening room- so no news to me! =D>

x2 as well for me too 8)
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:50 am

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I run my set of Silver Sevens on 2 x 20 amp dedicated lines and a dedicated 15 amp for the rest of the rig

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Post Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:54 am

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When I bought my house the first thing I did was tear the roof off the garage change the existing roof pitch and build a second floor living room which measures 16x24. Every phase of this project was completed by me including the finising of the second story of the existing structure. I also have 2 dedicated 20 amp lines for my tunes as well. As you can see from my avatar those 4 M 500 T's at full bore will eat 40 amps for breakfast.
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:36 am

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Tom,

Very good post and great idea. We were fortunate enouh when we built 14 yeas ago, I planned on 5 dedicated 20 amp circuits for our HTR and House system.
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:02 am

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Don wrote:Tom,

Very good post and great idea. We were fortunate enouh when we built 14 yeas ago, I planned on 5 dedicated 20 amp circuits for our HTR and House system.


Planning for a pair of Silver 9's for each channel Don? :D
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:08 pm

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Chauss wrote:
Don wrote:Tom,

Very good post and great idea. We were fortunate enouh when we built 14 yeas ago, I planned on 5 dedicated 20 amp circuits for our HTR and House system.


Planning for a pair of Silver 9's for each channel Don? :D



Never know what the future holds. :lol

Really running a lot of stuff. Had TFM-75 in loop at one time, which as you know has two power cords, two 55x's, pre-amp, receiver, blu-ray, DVD/VHS DVR, Sat. Receiver, two sub amps from Whisper XD's and Xilica processor, Velodyne 18 inch, Media Center Computer, two Niles 10 speaker selector switches and Sammy HD plus 3 Panamaxes. Then added a Sunfire 400 X7, C9 and BBE. Just about out of space for everything. ](*,)
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"Try not to become a man of success, but rather a man of value" Albert Einstein

"Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them". Charlie Reese

"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living." Brad Shurett


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RIP Bill D.
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Post Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:10 pm

So, has anybody who doesn't already have dedicated lines tried this? If not, this weekend would be a great time to find out!
In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to a good analogue reproduction.

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Post Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:06 pm

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I tried it last night but after I threw everything in the breaker box besides the outlet for my gear I couldn't find my way back out of the garage... ](*,) Might be better to do it during the day.... :-"
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