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mr._bowtie

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Post Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:15 pm

Subwoofer Advice?

My dad is finally getting his home theater system together and is at the point of buying a sub... Problem is its in a room thats about 1100-1200 sq ft! So this thing is gonna have to be a freakin haus! I was thinkin maybe one of Sunfires True 12" subs but I didnt know if he might need to go with a 15" driver to fill that much space with bass. Let me hear all your guys input on what sub to go with. Dont really have a huge brand preferance.... Hes got Genesis mains and infinity surrounds so its not like it really has to match anything lol. Lookin forward to your input! \:D/

Also am leaning towards used stuff... Like to be in the 500 dollar area if possible.
Brains... Sunfire TGP II, LG BH100, BSR EQ3000, Oppo DV-980H
Brawn... Carver M1.5T, Crown DC300A
Beauty... Infinity Referance Six's, Infinity Beta ES250's, Infinity Entra Sub
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Post Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:04 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

Wow, that is a big room! In your price range I would start with one Sunfire like this one >
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bob-Carver-SUNFIRE- ... 3ca8e637dd
That one has the 2700 watt amp. This next one >
http://cgi.ebay.com/SUNFIRE-TRUE-SUBWOO ... 2ea9c4567b

This has the 1250 watt amp. I am thinking maybe 2 subs?? The person to ask is Rabbit the Sunfire expert. Hopefully others will ring in also. There are other options out there keep in mind beside Sunfire. Several here also like the Velodyne subwoofers. personally I think one sub for each channel (main R & L) is the way to go. Good luck
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Post Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:16 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

I would start with a Sunfire True sub. If that does not do the job then two will.

I picked up both of mine, an original and a MKII for $440 and $535. You just need to be able to wait and bid accordingly. They can be had for a very resonable price. Plus they kick ass!
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Post Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:21 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

thuffman03 wrote:I would start with a Sunfire True sub. If that does not do the job then two will.

I picked up both of mine, an original and a MKII for $440 and $535. You just need to be able to wait and bid accordingly. They can be had for a very resonable price. Plus they kick ass!


Hey thuffman > are you running both subs in your set-up? Is your house still on it's foundation? :lol:
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Post Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:24 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

VMPS Larger. 2 of them. NASA uses them, why shouldn't he?

120db @ 20Hz without breaking a sweat.
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Post Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:39 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

Jag_97470 wrote:
thuffman03 wrote:I would start with a Sunfire True sub. If that does not do the job then two will.

I picked up both of mine, an original and a MKII for $440 and $535. You just need to be able to wait and bid accordingly. They can be had for a very resonable price. Plus they kick ass!


Hey thuffman > are you running both subs in your set-up? Is your house still on it's foundation? :lol:


I don't have a room large enough to run both. One is on my 2 channel and one is on my HT.

For my house one running at a time rumbles the stove and moves paintings on the walls. :shock:
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Post Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:06 am

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

Cool! Thanks for the advice.

Brings up another question though... if we have to go with a dual subwoofer option which Im thinking we will then he will need to upgrade to a preamp with 2 sub outs correct? Hes currently got my old Carver CT 28v which just has one. Hes not crazy about it anyways since it doesnt sound anywhere near as good as his C-4000 lol.

Another thing... as for filling a room that size, will the driver size or amp size have the most effect on it? We tried my brothers little cerwin vega in there to see what it did... Its a 10" 200 watt sub and in a small room POUNDS. Doesnt sound particularly great but is loud. In that big room it almost wasnt noticeable!



I actually am watching that first sub that you posted up in my ebay lol. Had my eye on it for a while!
Brains... Sunfire TGP II, LG BH100, BSR EQ3000, Oppo DV-980H
Brawn... Carver M1.5T, Crown DC300A
Beauty... Infinity Referance Six's, Infinity Beta ES250's, Infinity Entra Sub
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Post Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:44 am

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

Epik & SVS make fantastic subs for the $$$.
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Post Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:08 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

Ill look into those... any models that are better then others?
Brains... Sunfire TGP II, LG BH100, BSR EQ3000, Oppo DV-980H
Brawn... Carver M1.5T, Crown DC300A
Beauty... Infinity Referance Six's, Infinity Beta ES250's, Infinity Entra Sub
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Post Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:54 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

SVS PB-13 Ultra is a great sub.
http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-pb13ultra.cfm

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Epik's newest top of the line is the Dynasty, an 18" KILLER that goes down flat to about 12 hz! The Vanquish & Sentinel's are no slouchs~

http://www.epiksubwoofers.com/products.html

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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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Post Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:21 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

Awesome! Thanks alot. Ill definatly keep an eye out for em. Wasnt really anything on the bay right now. May check audiogon and see whats on there.
Brains... Sunfire TGP II, LG BH100, BSR EQ3000, Oppo DV-980H
Brawn... Carver M1.5T, Crown DC300A
Beauty... Infinity Referance Six's, Infinity Beta ES250's, Infinity Entra Sub
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Post Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:48 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

TNRabbit
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From FrankieD's lips to your ears: Sunfire - a quiet box of endless power.

Sunfire TG-IV/400~7 Amp
Carver SD/A-360 CDP
Benchmark DAC-1
Sony SACD/DVD-A
Active bi-amp: Ashly XR-1001 & 2 Rane PEQ-15s
Main: HotRodded AL-IIIs
Sub: Klipsch RT-12d
Center: Sunfire CRS-3c
Surround: Sunfire CRS-3 (x 2)

OconeeOrange wrote:"Gary likes to play it 'loud' as do I. His system begs you turn it up until you die"

RIP WIlliam B. Dibble, 1948-2012. I'll miss you my friend.
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Post Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:46 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

AV123 MFW-15 is a great sub at a great price.
http://www.av123.com//index.php?page=sh ... &Itemid=37
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Post Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:17 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

It's pretty far outside your budget, but you might want to take a look at one of these anyway...
One of those things where after you hear them, the price won't matter to you much anymore !!!
Try to find a local shop that has one, go take a drive, and play for the day!
You WON'T be sorry !! They are worth saving your pennies a few more months for, I promise !

http://home.jlaudio.com/

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Used prices on Audiogon arn't that crazy either
http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/srch_fs ... hstring=jl
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Post Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:39 pm

Re: Subwoofer Advice?

Rabbit, I thought that you would at least mention these bad boys.....

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In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to a good analogue reproduction.

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