The Possible Resurrection of CARVER Corp....

[Toy Maker]

He did say they have him designing a Sunfire "bose wave radio"

poor Bob

[Jag_97470]

Thanks to all who have answered my questions, and taken the time to help me learn. A lot of forums tend to treat a nubee like sh**, but here every one seems to be helpful, and actually want to pass along some great advice and knowledge.

Just wait, everyone is just being nice to you sucking you in. Just when you start feeling comfortable, it is then we will treat you like Shit! Kiddin

[helicopterpilotdoug]

Thanks to all who have answered my questions, and taken the time to help me learn. A lot of forums tend to treat a nubee like sh**, but here every one seems to be helpful, and actually want to pass along some great advice and knowledge.

Just wait, everyone is just being nice to you sucking you in. Just when you start feeling comfortable, it is then we will treat you like Shit! Kiddin

Oh Nooooo! Say it ain't sooooo!!

[BillD]

You used to be a prospect. Now, you're a client!

[helicopterpilotdoug]

You used to be a prospect. Now, you're a client!

Yes, I think you are right.

[BigBadWally]

Don't do it Bob! You'll put me in the poorhouse. My dogs will starve....
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Carver TX-11 Tuner, C1 preamp, TFM-45 power amp
Polk Audio RTA-12c

[Gary Bechtold]

First post in along time from me. Well the Carver name has a soft spot for me, so i certainly wouldn't mind it coming back. My question is how would this affect Sunfire? What is his current "relationship" with Sunfire and how would a Carver brand compete or compliment it. Cool to see a speaker concept in the works. I still remember those Amazing Loudspeakers when I was a kid.

[tah800]

Sounds like a great idea to me. My question would be where would the money come from. Getting something like this off the gound would take a lot. The 2 channel market has been awfully quiet lately so home theater would have to be a big part of a new company. Of course all of the members of this forum would be shareholders RIGHT??? I also feel you would still have to keep prices reasonable. I think one of the great reasons the old Carver company was so popular was that you could get fantastic products for very reasonable prices. Would that be possible in todays market place. I don't think you could produce a speaker like the ALS at $2500 today. I've seen guys on ebay trying to sell mint Carver speakers for two grand and most people on the forum are saying hey way to much most people are getting them for under a grand. The idea most of us would have is that you can get most of these great new Carver products without risking a divorce at home. Would you be willing to shell out much bigger bucks for the new products. Don't get me wrong I love the idea but it is something you'd have to think about. Art.

[TNRabbit]

How about an update, James?

[Toy Maker]

Ha... and you guys thought I was slow....

I have no idea how Carver or Sunfire ever produced anything

[Scarabeo]

Ha... and you guys thought I was slow....

I have no idea how Carver or Sunfire ever produced anything

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I am glad they did though / Find a way that is. Now back to my Bose

[ranster]

I for one personally believe he has put together the product to do just such a resurrection they are the wonderful tube amps he has been (MARKETING) as a breakthrough product. Nothing in the world can touch them are his own words if I remember correctly. Whatever he and Tim are currently splitting up from each sale would stay at just that. Get a few guys that can learn how Tubular Joe creates such beautiful point-to-point work and start putting together some product. by doing so the exclusivity of this amp will be hit by the product-demand-supply economics theory/fact of the whole concept and prices would inherently fall but I think Bob has plenty more ideas swimming around up there in that physicist-never-can-stop-making-things-better head of his, I mean you already got the guy making the MKII's that are superbly built and even some of the older stuff could also be re touched in a like manner. well I really don't know if much of the stuff could be improved upon that much, but tube designers of old were dreaming of amps that could do what there "240's" are doing, I mean refit the silver line with the new DC RESTORER and have it last 50-60 years, I bet many more sets would sell it the investment would last that long. plus read the Q and A's from the current amp sales, people from china, Guam, and all the world over are Carver die hards and paying the shipping for these to the "world over" I believe it will work, but you can't rush into anything, I mean the amps are named Vintage Carver... but they are a brand new design, I mean old late great amp designs re-thought and re-applied with Bob's genus and Waa-La you have Carver- Re thinking the impossible. This is what he has done always; doing the impossible. My hat is off to you Sir Bob you have a network here of diehards to the bone, I have heard that some people are selling their carver stuff because of the fear of a long turnaround time with only one person doing the repairs and they have a gig in four days they can't take the chance of not being able to get it repaired in time so the whole gamut if collected and assembled correctly would work. Just food for thought "Carver Re thinking the impossible" or some spin off might work.

[angelod307]

hello all. i would totally love the idea of a carver name coming back with the classic models like tfm35,55,75 and silver's with the designation of series two or what not. personally i think the those models are the most attractive by far and when they went to the x model and lost the knob up front, they went backwards and down hill as they jumped the shark with the thx hype. the purpose of the carver name coming back is to fill the hole that the sunfire brand left with their price tags in the thousands. a multi channel 200wpc is nice and the 400wpc amp in the 3-4k range is far beyond the grass roots that i came up on in 92 with my AL-III's and tfm 55's. i would love to own a new set of retro style amps instead of refurbishing what i own. they obviously stand the test of time. 18 plus years of rocking on them hard and they are still working. i think he would have a totally different market than the sunfire crowd if he sold amps at say $400-500/tfm35, $600-700/tfm55 and $1000-1200/tfm75 or even a lightstar model. the technology could be older with newer manufacturing techniques such surface mount and what not. in the 70's,then 80's and early 90's he was the king of the 300wpc market. tons of bang with out the $12,000 plus dollar price tag. he flat out killed the competition. then the china man said, nice. i buy it. and it went to shit. so, today, bob is already selling some of his stuff on ebay. i would think a factory direct approach would be the best. no dealers, distributors and so forth to mark it up and present it poorly to the public. as i said, bob has more smarts than any other guy i know of in the electronics arena. question really is i would think, does he want to mess up the sunfire line with a middle of the road priced product that most would have a hard time hearing the subtle differences in(or not). again, without any dealers, that would be easy. the sunfire dealers are into multi-channel, high end now, so keep the carver name in the format that made it famous - 2 channel. last, but not least. i would love a new al-4 speaker. a big ribbon(36"-60" with 3-6 6.5" woofers to do the mid-bass justice and give the bass section punch as subwoofers are everywhere to be found now for the bottom end. just my two cents worth. and for service, he already has the service centers doing the vintage stuff, and if the designs don't stray, that much the easier for them. just make sure to keep the product with a "made in the usa" stamp. or could this could just be one of my pipe dreams. hope it doesn't go up in smoke. no pun intended. warm regards as the audioshopper would say about now.

[Magnaryder]

Carver was out of business, no shit??

I for one think it would be a great idea. Hats off to ya Bob. Ya know, a Carver Turntable, now that would be something???

I actually brought the subject of a Carver Turntable up to Bob in September. He told me he did have one built while he was at Phase Linear. Another maker built it for him. remarked there are SOOOO many very high-quality units out there, why bother?

ray

[nooshinjohn]

The Phase Linear table was a very well regarded version of a Pioneer Linear Tracker as I remember. They do pop up from time to time.