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AL-lll in a surround system

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67ih4x4x4

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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:53 pm

AL-lll in a surround system

Has anyone used AL-lll's for front and/or rear in a surround system? I am thinking of trying my AL-ll's for front channels. I may have a line on another set, but I'm not sure they would work well for rear surround. Any thoughts?
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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:00 pm

Re: AL-lll in a surround system

I have no experience with amazings as surrounds but they should work fine.

Being dipoles with sound front & back should be better for ambiance I would think.

Bob would tell you "try it and see".
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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:34 pm

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Normally have Plat's in the front w/ALIII's in the rear but the Plats are down for woofer repair, so I've currently got ALIII's in front and back. Sounds great.

VMPS LRC for a center works pretty darn good.
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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:15 pm

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If you can make it happen - - YES --- do it.
I'm sure there are at least a couple members here who already have.
Just make sure you have the proper Carver power to back them up!!! :D
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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:07 pm

Re: AL-lll in a surround system

67ih4x4x4 wrote:Has anyone used AL-lll's for front and/or rear in a surround system? I am thinking of trying my AL-ll's for front channels. I may have a line on another set, but I'm not sure they would work well for rear surround. Any thoughts?


Yes, but I have to search to find that.

Actually, better speakers are better speakers, but BOB claims you don't need so much at the rears.
A good processor puts the heavy load on the mains, and the dialog on the center. The others do less.

I suspect it is better if the others are quality, but above what is needed there, will not be heard. It is cool though to have all that.
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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:28 pm

Re: AL-lll in a surround system

I have a set as the rears, but they are very directional, so they almost need to be aimed in from the corners at about 45deg... or to intersect with your listening area....
I had a tfm45 on them it would hardly move the needle unless it was REALLY LOUD and then maybe 50watts or so....
gone back to 2 channel, I find surround funky sounding....
now I have a set of al3 just sitting.... :cry:
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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:36 pm

Re: AL-lll in a surround system

mbskeam wrote:I have a set as the rears, but they are very directional, so they almost need to be aimed in from the corners at about 45deg... or to intersect with your listening area....
I had a tfm45 on them it would hardly move the needle unless it was REALLY LOUD and then maybe 50watts or so....
gone back to 2 channel, I find surround funky sounding....
now I have a set of al3 just sitting.... :cry:


Yeah, me too.
I have good mains, a good sub and the sound is great for video. Actually, depending on the movie, sound comes from everywhere.
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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:22 pm

Re: AL-lll in a surround system

Thanks for the thoughts guys. The room in question is 30x50 so it seems like a larger set of speakers in the rear will not be as much overkill as usual .
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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:14 pm

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why i have been doing it almost since new with front and rear al3's. it's the center channel that is so much harder to intergrate sonically.
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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:29 pm

Re: AL-lll in a surround system

67ih4x4x4 wrote:The room in question is 30x50


You charge for tickets at the door? :shock:
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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:30 pm

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angelod307 wrote:why i have been doing it almost since new with front and rear al3's. it's the center channel that is so much harder to intergrate sonically.


The Sunfire CRM-2c & CRS-3c work very well with the AL-IIIs.
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Post Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:32 pm

Re: AL-lll in a surround system

OconeeOrange wrote:BOB claims you don't need so much at the rears.
A good processor puts the heavy load on the mains, and the dialog on the center. The others do less.

I suspect it is better if the others are quality, but above what is needed there, will not be heard. It is cool though to have all that.


I've been running Chorus IIs for rears and agree that it's a total waste for movies.
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Post Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:00 am

Re: AL-lll in a surround system

The best is to have all the speakers the same (at least with the same timbre). The noise generator that you use to set the loudness of each speaker relative to the others is a good place to listen for timbre. The SHHHHHH should sound the same from each speaker. If it doesn't, your speakers aren't timbre matched.
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Post Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:48 am

Re: AL-lll in a surround system

First of all nothing special about the room, pole barn house = lots of space low frills. I have looked at the cm series a little. They look good and I thought the ribbons would tie in good together , but the price for three is a little steep . Thats why i'm thinking of AL-lll's for the rear and maybe one cm for the center. One interesting thing I have found is a lot of the reviews prefer the regular cm for the center channel over the cm-c which is made just for the center.
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Post Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:07 am

Re: AL-lll in a surround system

Using good speakers for the rears in a 5.1 system--especially ones that are tonally matched to your main fronts and center--can ONLY make your system sound better.

Especially with BluRay movies which have true 5.1 soundtracks that are not compressed (regular DVDs massively compress the audio track...). If you have a CD player that can read 5.1 SACDs, you will notice a big improvement with good rear speakers too.

When I got a pair of Martin Logan Scenarios for the rear of my 5.1 rig (Sequels up front, Logos center), the improvement was NOT subtle for BluRay and SACD playback...
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