Silver Seven vs 180 or 305

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Re: Silver Seven vs 180 or 305

Post by Chauss » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:51 pm

yeah....he must have been looking in mine by mistake when he saw it was empty! 8)
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Re: Silver Seven vs 180 or 305

Post by Snoop65 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:34 pm

Chauss wrote:yeah....he must have been looking in mine by mistake when he saw it was empty! 8)
Lol!!! Mine is full of dust bunnies!!!
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Re: Silver Seven vs 180 or 305

Post by tinpan » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:01 am

Dan

I love to help you out, but that would be real hard to do as i sold my set of Cherry 260's in March to Tinpan
to help pay for my China trip.
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I have to give it to Brian for trying those KT 120's out. Since I am running the Cherry 260's on a pair of Klipsch CF-3's I thought I would pull the 120's and go back to KT88's. My reasoning was these amps at 180 watts would be more than enough to run the CF3's and might sound better.

Once I hooked them up I spent about a month comparing them to the Audio Note set up. It's a difficult comparison to make because the systems are so different. Push pull vs SET, KT120's vs 300b etc. The DAC's and Preamp are similar though, all tubed Audio Note, though different models.

The one thing the AN setup does better than the Carver is the mid range. I have my Lowthers back on the AN set up and listening to acoustic oriented music, the mid range is so intoxicating you can overlook the weak bass. I am also using a Rythmik Sub on this system and it does well filling in the low end, but then purists will question whether this is a true full range set up. I have to be kind of picky with the music I play on this system, most rock and roll sound ok but not great on this system, I don't know if it's because the original music is compressed when the burned it to CD or what, but it usually lacks the warmth and richness I like.

The Carvers on the other had, especially with the KY120's slay the AN set up in terms of breadth of range. The bass is stunning with these tubes. I really don't see a need for a sub woofer with this set up. While the mid range isn't as warm as the AN set up it is still very detailed. Overall I think most folks would prefer this sound because it handles a wider range of sound, I think the highs are better and the low end will move you off your seat. I don't know if it's a function of push pull tubes vs SET or what but this system sounds great with rock and roll.

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Re: Silver Seven vs 180 or 305

Post by Snoop65 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:22 am

Thank you for that post Tinpan. =D> =D> =D> It seems big watts and good bass always go hand in hand.
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Re: Silver Seven vs 180 or 305

Post by mbskeam » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:35 pm

Tinpan....
have you tried kt88's????
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Re: Silver Seven vs 180 or 305

Post by BrianT » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:27 pm

mbskeam wrote:Tinpan....
have you tried kt88's????
Mike.

I did, I had the stock KT88's and then the Shuguang Treasure series KT88-Z in the Cherry's
I personally thought that the KT120's had a much better low end without fucking up the high's
The mids MIGHT have been slightly better with the Shuguang Treasure series KT88-Z but thats a big Might.

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Re: Silver Seven vs 180 or 305

Post by tinpan » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:48 pm

I have tried KT88 before but not on this amp. I like the sound of this amp and plan on keeping the KT120's in it. It is definitely not lacking in anything.
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Re: Silver Seven vs 180 or 305

Post by jjptkd » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:44 pm

You're talking about the cherry 260's?... :-k I think those would sound incredible on my Chorus II's... some day soon. :D
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