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Carver sells out to emo

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nooshinjohn

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Post Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:49 pm

Re: Carver sells out to emo

I have not heard one in several years so my info is out of date, but at that time Sunfire Sigs kicked their ass...
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Post Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:03 pm

Re: Carver sells out to emo

No effect on vintage Carver and Sunfire amps and if I ever want (doubtful) one of Bob's current tube amp (in the 180 to 305 w/c class), well I'm sure I can get one off ePray. So no need to ever deal with this new company....sounds like they suck. I posted elsewhere that I thought that this move (i.e., commercialization) of Bob's recent tube amps would/could lead to a certain amount of "wateringdown" of these amps. From what I'm reading here, that sounds pretty likely now. But good news for all those that currently own these recent Bob Father tube amps (now to most likely be referred to as "pre Emo merger" Carver tube amps): they will now be worth more than before (the Chinese Emo clones start arriving here...)! But still a great (most likely) financial (and creative) move for Bob, IMO!
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Post Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:38 pm

Re: Carver sells out to emo

Well, they (emo) have stated manufacturing will remain in KY, so maybe everything will be ok. Time will tell.
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Post Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:48 pm

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more info.....

Today, Jade Design, parent company of Emotiva, Emotiva Pro, and Sherbourn, has completed the acquisition of tube amp manufacturer Bob Carver, LLC. The acquisition includes a long-term intellectual property agreement allowing Jade Design’s brands to utilize Bob Carver’s engineering ideas.

“This is a milestone in audio,” said Laufman, in a press release. “Bob Carver is a legendary name. It’s no exaggeration to call him one of the most brilliant, creative, and innovative designers in high-end audio, and I am thrilled to now call him my colleague.”

Bob Carver said: “Watching Dan and his team create the first truly successful direct-to-consumer high-end audio brand has brought me great pleasure, and I can’t think of anyone I’d rather partner with than Dan Laufman.”

All Carver products will continue to be handmade in the US, but will now benefit from Jade’s larger and more efficient manufacturing facilities and Emotiva’s PureDirect sales model. Current Carver dealers will be able to continue selling through Jade with its PureDirect Partner program—a streamlined, territory-protected model that provides full support and shipping.

While Jade’s brands will still be sold direct via the Web, the company is determined to support existing dealers. “We won’t undercut the dealers,” said Laufman. “And there’ll be no need for the dealer to discount below the website’s advertised prices.” Any discounts advertised online will carry over to the bricks-and-mortar stores, so that the dealers’ margins stay the same.

The retail prices of Carver’s components will decrease accordingly, sometimes dramatically: The Black Beauty monoblock power amp, originally $13,000/pair, will now cost $7999/pair; the Cherry 180 monoblock, originally $9000/pair, will cost $5999/pair; the Black Magic stereo power amplifier, originally $2500, will cost $1690. For current owners who bought through dealers, Jade Design will offer a 50% discount on the direct price for an upcoming Carver Black Velvet preamp.

All of Bob Carver, LLC’s operations will move to the Jade Design facility in Franklin, TN, which in turn is being retrofitted for Carver production. With Bob Carver’s vision and expertise, Jade plans to expand the line to include subwoofers, speakers, and several new tubed products, including a DAC. “Emotive will take these ideas to market in a meaningful way,” said Laufman.

For Laufman, the opportunity to build electronics in the US has “stoked a fire.” He hopes to soon move production of certain Emotiva products to the US, as well.

“US manufacturing is in my blood,” he explained. “We’re excited to get back into it. We’ve got a great team here and we’re going to be successful with it.”
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Post Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:00 am

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Black Velvet pre amp.... Hummmmmmmm........
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Post Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:32 pm

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Black Velvet pre-- okay-- who has more information about this,, sounds innarresting!!
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Post Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:48 pm

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Yeah exactly George, would like to hear more about that pre also !!
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Post Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:47 pm

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Bob has brought up a few times, a re-worked Sunfire pre, with better phono stage.
I'm sure that's all it will be.
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Post Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:52 am

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Toy Maker wrote:Bob has brought up a few times, a re-worked Sunfire pre, with better phono stage.
I'm sure that's all it will be.

James... do you think the phono mod will be similar to Brian T's modded stage Bob did?
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Post Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:52 pm

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kingman wrote:
Toy Maker wrote:Bob has brought up a few times, a re-worked Sunfire pre, with better phono stage.
I'm sure that's all it will be.

James... do you think the phono mod will be similar to Brian T's modded stage Bob did?


Wayne

Only time will tell :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

See you soon.

BTW. I,m thinking of selling one of my Sunfire Tube Preamps (full load phono stage and remote)

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Post Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:09 am

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Toy Maker wrote:Bob has brought up a few times, a re-worked Sunfire pre, with better phono stage.
I'm sure that's all it will be.

\:D/
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Post Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:10 am

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BrianT wrote:
kingman wrote:
Toy Maker wrote:Bob has brought up a few times, a re-worked Sunfire pre, with better phono stage.
I'm sure that's all it will be.

James... do you think the phono mod will be similar to Brian T's modded stage Bob did?


Wayne

Only time will tell :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

See you soon.

BTW. I,m thinking of selling one of my Sunfire Tube Preamps (full load phono stage and remote)

Brian

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Post Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:36 pm

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Guys'' not to derail,, but whats a fair price for a sunfire linestage(no phono)?
Thanks in advance.
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Post Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:59 pm

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Zoot Horn wrote:Guys'' not to derail,, but whats a fair price for a sunfire linestage(no phono)?
Thanks in advance.


George.
This is what I think they are worth.

Sunfire Tube PreAmp:

No Phono, No Remote. No Marks. $1100.00
No Phono, No Marks but has Remote $1200.00/$1250.00
Full load, Phono, Remote, No Marks $1600.00/$1800.00
Extra full load, Modded Phono Stage, Remote, No Marks "PRICELESS" :D

Lets see what other people think as i have a full load for sale.

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Post Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:01 pm

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Thanks Brian,, you answered my question precisely.I 'm thinking about the Classic w/remote. Judging by your response 600 is a good deal.
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