Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by Toy Maker » Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:32 pm

thought of those.. all sounded the same... =D>

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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by engtaz » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:36 pm

Toy Maker wrote:If Ray's cool with it, I'll use that name.

I was going to go with the CarverAudio thing.... but,
"Shit Wire" has a nice sound to it.

Shit Wire
our wires, are the shit !!!

We'll have different lines as well...

"Shit Wire" (Econo-line)
"Real Shit" (Mid-line)
"Total Shit" (Highend- line)

Shit wire..... "Let it flow"
Too funny.

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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by FesteLV » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:40 pm

Toy Maker wrote:
We'll have different lines as well...

"Shit Wire" (Econo-line)
"Real Shit" (Mid-line)
"Total Shit" (Highend- line)

Shit wire..... "Let it flow"

And for those that aren't in the know I guess they don't know "Jack Schitt!" :lol:

I wish I could be there at the fest...being a high school teacher is tough to miss days at the beginning of the year. If I can find a way to get coverage... [-o<
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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by Mr. M-500t » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:55 am

OBI56 wrote:Shitty Cable?
Shittier Cable?
Shittiest Cable?
Absolute Rock Bottom = Cah-Cah ? :lol:

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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by TNRabbit » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:57 am

If I make it down this year (probably), I'll most likely only be bringing the TG-IV and 400~7 amp plus a CD/SACD Player & and the DAC-1 w/AKG cans. I don't think I'm going to be able to swing the AL-IIIs this time.
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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by skip » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:27 am

TNRabbit wrote:WHEN I make it down this year, I'll be bringing the TG-IV and 400~7 amp plus a CD/SACD Player & and the DAC-1 w/AKG cans. I don't think I'm going to be able to swing the AL-IIIs this time.
There, fixed it for Ya Wabbit O:)
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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by Magnaryder » Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:33 pm

Toy Maker wrote:If Ray's cool with it, I'll use that name.

I was going to go with the CarverAudio thing.... but,
"Shit Wire" has a nice sound to it.

Shit Wire
our wires, are the shit !!!

We'll have different lines as well...

"Shit Wire" (Econo-line)
"Real Shit" (Mid-line)
"Total Shit" (Highend- line)

Shit wire..... "Let it flow"

I'm very cool with it 8)
Put me down for a set of 'Total Shit' wires. Probably sound better than the ones I'm listening to now..... as if I could hear the difference. Do they come in balanced silver? The ringing in my ear has subsided a bit since I quit Whirlpool and my last hearing test showed it has actually improved lately, so I *might* be able to hear a difference...or not.

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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by Dreamer » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:30 pm

I'd love to post a list of the gear I'm bringing, but I'm planning some MAJOR upgrades over the summer, and won't know until August for sure what I'll be bringing...

But I WILL be bringing my Silver 7t's, all my White Zombie and Black Mountain Silver cables, the Benchmark DAC, and SOME sort of Martin Logan speakers (Probably the Scenerios, but maybe something a little newer... ;) ).

Preamp and CD transport are still up in the air too, depending on if I can get a line on the new (used) gear I want, and unload some of my current gear to pay for it...

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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by skip » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:21 am

Dreamer,
I'm mighty curious to see if the DAC will improve the sound of the 490t. Ought to be interesting.
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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by OBI56 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:28 am

Skip, don't forget that the external DAC will completely bypass the tube output stage and its own specific sound, thus removing everything that makes it worth having in the first place.
Why let facts or common sense get in the way of your opinions.

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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by skip » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:27 pm

OBI,
How could it bypass the tube output if you ran the variable output (tube) to the DAC?
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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by TNRabbit » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:33 pm

skip wrote:OBI,
How could it bypass the tube output if you ran the variable output (tube) to the DAC?

He's talking about using digital input. The new DAC has analog inputs but the old one only has digital inputs. With your variable output on the 490t, the best (least equipment) option is to go straight into the amp.


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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by OBI56 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:48 pm

It is my understanding that the internal DAC is BEFORE the output stage. The Optical or Digital output is before the internal DAC. Running the variable main output from the SDA-490t results in an Analog signal that has already been converted from the Digital signal. To my knowledge, running an Analog signal to an external DAC won't result in anything but it bypassing the external DAC IF you could plug the analog outputs to some kind of analog inout on the ecternal DAC. Running the Digital or Optical output to the external DAC results in the internal DAC to be the one that is bypassed.

Is my understanding of how this works completely screwed up?
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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by BillD » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:20 pm

Maybe I'm confused, but why would you take a digital signal and convert it to analog (in the SDA-490t) pass it to a DAC (remember - that means Digital to Analog Converter) in analog format for the DAC to convert it back to digital then re-convert it back to analog? Or does the DAC simply pass the analog through - in which case, why use it at all?

Or, as OBI is stating, if you take the digital out of the SDA-490t, you'll just be testing the transport, which is at least a decade old, and getting none of the benefits of the DAC or the tube sound out of it.
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Re: Gear that will be at Carverfest '08 thread.....

Post by Toy Maker » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:55 pm

Here would be a VERY interesting A-B-C test....

1st we need a Carver/Sunfire receiver with digital and analog inputs.

Take the 490t,
Run the (tubed) RCAs to a analog input on the receiver...
Connect the digital output direct to the reveicer...
Run the optical output to the external DAC then to the receiver.

Now you can play with all 3 DAC's at the same time.

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