--- Lightstar Lightstar Lightstar --- would you upgrade ??

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If given the opertunity, would you upgrade your current "stereo" units for a Carver Lightstar Direct Preamp, and a Carver Lightstar Reference Amplifier ??

YES, In a heartbeat, and I'd pay more than $2,500 if need be!!
5
24%
I would be willing to upgrade at a cost of $2,500 but no more.
2
10%
I would be willing to upgrade, but only if it did not cost me anything.
4
19%
I would not upgrade due to the $2,500 cost.
3
14%
I would not upgrade, if there were any extra cost at all.
0
No votes
I would not upgrade, even if it were an even swap.
4
19%
I would not upgrade, even if you paid me to take them.
3
14%
 
Total votes: 21

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Re: --- Lightstar Lightstar Lightstar --- would you upgrade ??

Post by maddmaxxx » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:00 pm

-oh, believe ALL the sunfire amps have single power cords [w/400 joules 'storage' capacity ?]

-the LS has 2 power cords [w/200 joules 'storage' capacity ?]...i forget ](*,)

-pretty sure the LS iz a true dual monoblck affair [ala tfm75]



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Re: --- Lightstar Lightstar Lightstar --- would you upgrade ??

Post by TNRabbit » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:34 pm

maddmaxxx wrote:-oh, believe ALL the sunfire amps have single power cords [w/400 joules 'storage' capacity ?]

-the LS has 2 power cords [w/200 joules 'storage' capacity ?]...i forget ](*,)

-pretty sure the LS iz a true dual monoblck affair [ala tfm75]



-anybody ?
The Sunfire Sigs have single cord w/@ 480 joules of reserve in the transformer. @ 380 joules for the standard models.

I personally don't think you'll HEAR ANY difference between the two, but the Sunfire 7 channels have more channels to draw from and you can "daisy chain" the inputs from one to the next with short RCAs. Ray's LS is the "light" model (series II?) while James' is the original and supposedly better (heavy as HELL!). I've heard Mike's (BlueMDPicker) "heavy" LS w/electrostats and it was WORKING to power those babies. I don't think any lesser amp would have been up to the challenge. My personal observations between the two is they are both WORLD CLASS for thousands of $$$ less than the nearest competition. In a "perfect" listening situation, you'd be HARD PRESSED to tell the difference.... end rant! O:) O:) O:)
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Post by maddmaxxx » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:43 pm

-iz there a wpc diff between the heavy a lighter *LS's ?

-oooboy, mr MR has the 'light' model ?...seemed like one heavy mofo to me ?








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Post by Magnaryder » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:28 pm

maddmaxxx wrote:-iz there a wpc diff between the heavy a lighter *LS's ?

-oooboy, mr MR has the 'light' model ?...seemed like one heavy mofo to me ?








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No WPC difference but I *think* the Reference 1.0 should have a current advantage over my 2.0 due to those 2 big honkin' transformers. The rags of the day said no difference, but I don't think they had ever run accross anything like Lightstar.
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Post by maddmaxxx » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:43 pm

-OK, thats what i read...the ref I's were crazy 'overbuilt' / 'overkill'

-and the ref II's were 'set-up' for manufacturing



-just 1 LS pre-amp, a passive design w/motorized [syncrho's] for volume and 'source selection' ???
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Post by Magnaryder » Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:40 pm

maddmaxxx wrote:-OK, thats what i read...the ref I's were crazy 'overbuilt' / 'overkill'

-and the ref II's were 'set-up' for manufacturing



-just 1 LS pre-amp, a passive design w/motorized [syncrho's] for volume and 'source selection' ???
AFAIK, the Lightstar line was composed of the following .... 1 Pre(the Lightstar Direct) 2 Amplifiers(Reference and Reference 2.0) and 1 Sub(Darkstar....that didn't go into production.) I would imagine they planned to expand the line had the company not folded.

I have it on good authority I own the only surviving Darkstar driver. Carver Research built a Trapazoidal cabinet for it....with a 5-sided Lightstar emblem that was lit by a blue LED. You should be able to see mine at CF '08.

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Post by maddmaxxx » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:53 pm

-thankyou, i dunno why i could'nt grasp their breif history...probably on acct i've only seen 1 in my life

-just read small articles 'here and there', way back when


-if BC had a little more time/money w/carver corp...



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Post by mikeg » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:47 pm

I'm mulling over purchasing another Lightstar 2.0 that would make it my second unit but I'm in a bit of a conundrum. I would need to sell my Sunfire 300x2 amp (the one in the avatar) and pay another $500 probably to get it, is it worth it? I just need a sanity check, I know I already have one and the rationale I'm using is the build quality/coolness factor (so much for rationale) is better and I do like the neutral voicing of the Lightstar.

Please help me get of the fence :) not much time left.
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Post by Toy Maker » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:51 pm

Naaa pass on it...

cause I'm the guy next in line if you do :lol:
I plan to use it for my subs \:D/

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Post by frankieD » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:43 pm

I can't seem to cast a vote so I'll say it here:

NO! I don't want no stinkin' lightstar!


I got SUNFIRE! hahahahahahahahahaha. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: --- Lightstar Lightstar Lightstar --- would you upgrade ??

Post by Toy Maker » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:47 pm

frankieD wrote:I can't seem to cast a vote so I'll say it here:

NO! I don't want no stinkin' lightstar!


I got SUNFIRE! hahahahahahahahahaha. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Silly boy..... but you see which ones I held onto
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Re: --- Lightstar Lightstar Lightstar --- would you upgrade ??

Post by frankieD » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:52 pm

Yes I saw the amps you held onto.

I even lifted one up (my balls & my eyeballs touched) and you call me a silly boy.

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Re: --- Lightstar Lightstar Lightstar --- would you upgrade ??

Post by mikeg » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:38 pm

Well it looks like a moot point anyway, the guy got back with me and said there was another person committed, btw this is the one on Audiogon.

Poking around the forum, it's been awhile since I've been here, I noticed the Lightstar audiogon/ebay thread and didn't realize that there was somebody looking at them already, sorry about that.
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Re: --- Lightstar Lightstar Lightstar --- would you upgrade ??

Post by Toy Maker » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:50 pm

Yeah, i got the same reply... but I'm in line after him if it falls through (I guess)

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